E9 - Shazam! | Star Wars: Andor 1,2,3,4,5,6

Hero Chat Show with ZaneMan & Jonni Boy.

We're Talking about #DC, #Marvel & #StarWars #Movies, #TVShows, #Video Game & #ComicCon Content on the Hero Chat Show.

On This Episode of the Hero Chat Show:

It's the Hero Chat Show, At the Movies Segment (Featuring) - Shazam!
A Breakdown & Commentary of the New Line Cinema & Warner Bros. Motion Picture Shazam! staring Zachary Levi: Shazam!, Mark Strong: Dr, Sivana, & Asher Angel: Billy Baston.

You are Watching TV on the Hero Chat Show Segment (Featuring) - Star Wars: Andor
A Breakdown & Commentary of the Lucusfilm & Disney+ TV Show Andor where ZaneMan & Jonni Boy discuss Episodes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, & 6.

We’re Gaming Together on the Hero Chat Show Segment (Featuring) - Batman: Arkham City
A Breakdown & Commentary of the Rocksteady Studios & Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment Action-Adventure Video Game, Batman: Arkham City.

Special Guest: Patrick

Next Up on Episode 10:
#Movie - Black Adam
#TV Show - She Hulk: Attorney at Law 5,6,7,8,9
#VideoGame - Gotham Knights

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It's the Hero Chat Show at movie

Daddylacus: 0:08

Attention Listener. If you can hear this, then you've tuned into our top secret radio frequency, But not to be alarmed, kick back, relax, and enjoy. We're talking about Marvel and DC but they don't have it. All. Add Star Wars that's easy, but you know who to call. I'm talking about And Jonni boy, The Power with a master Plan on the Hero chat Show.

Jonni Boy: 0:43

Welcome to the Hero Chat Show, where we'll share segments such as at the movies, a new movie that we've seen watching tv, a new TV show we're watching. We're gaming together a video game. We're playing at the Con, a Comic-Con we have visited, or a special guest, mostly sharing from DC Marvel and Star Wars. I'm Jonni Boy.

ZaneMan: 1:04

I'm ZaneMan.

Jonni Boy: 1:06

All right, so zane.

ZaneMan: 1:07

Yeah. What's up?

Daddylacus: 1:08

Hero chat show welcomes our special guest.

Jonni Boy: 1:14

We have a special guest with us today.

ZaneMan: 1:16

I don't think we do.

Jonni Boy: 1:17

We had Patrick on episode seven. Was it?

ZaneMan: 1:21

I don't, Why are you asking me

Jonni Boy: 1:23

six?

ZaneMan: 1:23

You know, I don't prepare for this. Don't look.

Jonni Boy: 1:27

Was it episode five?

ZaneMan: 1:30

He's, just gonna keep guessing.

Jonni Boy: 1:31

Was it episode four?

ZaneMan: 1:32

He's just, he's gonna keep going.

Jonni Boy: 1:36

Was it episode two?

ZaneMan: 1:37

Stop. Just stop. It wasn't one through three, I can tell you that. I think it was either four or, uh,

Jonni Boy: 1:44

Episode five. Episode five.

ZaneMan: 1:47

Great.

Jonni Boy: 1:49

Then last time we kind of were giving him some, trying on some names. So we had Joker P.

ZaneMan: 1:54

That was a good one.

Jonni Boy: 1:55

That was a good one. Good old Pisco, Pisco, Ramone. I remember that you used that. Yeah. And, uh, we've come up with a few others for this podcast. We're gonna try those out. Do we want to give those away now, or we want to do it through the episode?

ZaneMan: 2:09

I think each of us can give one away now.

Jonni Boy: 2:11

Okay. You want to go first or you want me to go first?

ZaneMan: 2:13

I think you got it.

Jonni Boy: 2:15

All right. So I have P Man.

ZaneMan: 2:18

Yeah. I like P Man.

Jonni Boy: 2:20

Or P Men,

ZaneMan: 2:22

like the X-Men

Jonni Boy: 2:23

like the Xmen, but with P So they're peeing all over the men.

ZaneMan: 2:26

I was thinking P lantern. Any thoughts?

Jonni Boy: 2:29

Yeah. P lantern or p lantern. That's good. I like that. Well, let's bring Patrick into the mix here. Patrick. Welcome to Hero. Chat Show. Keen man.

P Lantern: 2:41

Thank you for, having me. P man is pretty good.

ZaneMan: 2:45

I p man. No, it was P lantern. Oh yeah. Or P man.

P Lantern: 2:49

Oh yeah. Mix them up. Sorry.

Jonni Boy: 2:51

Or P man. P man.

ZaneMan: 2:52

It can be P men as well.

P Lantern: 2:54

Pe Lantern.

ZaneMan: 2:55

Pe Lantern. Oh yeah.

Jonni Boy: 2:57

I thought it was p Lanter. Imwe. It was gonna be, Lanter was gonna be made of p

ZaneMan: 3:02

I said it kind be P lantern or p lantern.

P Lantern: 3:06

P lantern I think is pretty funny.

ZaneMan: 3:08

Yeah. T-shirts. He's always gonna be good old Pisco to me.

Jonni Boy: 3:13

Yeah. Joker. P i I like that one too. That one's just kind of, kind of there.

ZaneMan: 3:17

Imwe just revert.

Jonni Boy: 3:18

Yeah. We'll, we'll figure it out. We got a couple more. We'll try on and then at the end of the show, maybe we'll, uh, we'll figure it out or we'll crown you. Or maybe we'll leave it to an audience vote. We don't know. Who knows? All right, so, we do at the movie segment and this, uh, week we went back into the archives because we're getting ready for black, uh, Panther.

ZaneMan: 3:43

Really?

Jonni Boy: 3:43

No, it black Adam

ZaneMan: 3:47

just, you're just gonna say black. And that's it.

Jonni Boy: 3:51

We're getting ready for black Adam. So we went back in the archives and we're watching Shazam!

ZaneMan: 3:55

Shazam!

Jonni Boy: 3:57

Shazam! So let's get into it. You wanna get into it?

ZaneMan: 4:02

You know, What does he have to say about it? What do you think about Shazam!

Jonni Boy: 4:06

Well, we are not into the segment yet. We gotta play the

ZaneMan: 4:08

Well, what do you think about the name?

Jonni Boy: 4:10

Wait, wait.

Daddylacus: 4:14

It's the Hero Chat Show At the Movies

ZaneMan: 4:21

You have to spoil all my phones.

Jonni Boy: 4:22

Shazam!

ZaneMan: 4:24

You're mean to me.

P Lantern: 4:25

Oh yeah. Think Shazam is a pretty good name, but she didn't keep saying it. Or, you know, Lightning's gonna strike your house.

ZaneMan: 4:33

I think it already has kind of

P Lantern: 4:34

Oh yeah.

ZaneMan: 4:36

I mean, lightning strikes twice in every place that it's struck. Before that was like Gandhi or something.

P Lantern: 4:44

Yeah, I think it was Gandhi.

ZaneMan: 4:45

Yeah. Gandhi said Lightning is a fickle matter of thermodynamics.

P Lantern: 4:53

That's the wrong one.

ZaneMan: 4:54

no, I'm pretty sure that's right.

P Lantern: 4:55

Are you sure?

ZaneMan: 4:56

Yeah. He was like the third love thermodynamics. Oh no, not just, Just, That's what gandhi said.

Jonni Boy: 5:04

Release date was April the fifth, 2019.

P Lantern: 5:07

20 nineteens three years old

Jonni Boy: 5:09

and new line cinema announced that the sequel would be released on April 1st, 2022. So we would've gotten a sequel three years later. That did not happen. Yeah, the release date was delayed several times and is now due for release March 17th, 2023.

ZaneMan: 5:25

It's about more than a year,

Jonni Boy: 5:26

so we'll see. Shazam Shazam! Fury of the gods.

P Lantern: 5:31

It's an 11 month pushback. So it's not as bad.

ZaneMan: 5:34

No, it's just not.

Jonni Boy: 5:36

Uh, so it's starring Zachary Levi as Chuck, or he was on Chuck as Shazam aren't strong as Dr. Savannah.

ZaneMan: 5:44

No one in the movie is called Chuck

Jonni Boy: 5:47

Asher. Angel as Billy Batson. Zachary Levi was on a really cool show called Chuck. You'll have to look it up.

ZaneMan: 5:54

You know, I won't,

P Lantern: 5:54

But that's not from Shazam!

Jonni Boy: 5:57

Shazam.

ZaneMan: 5:58

It's not from Shazam!

Jonni Boy: 5:59

No, it's, He was like a spy, but he was working for like a Best Buy, but it wasn't a Best Buy. I was like something else in the, in the show. You have to go back and watch it.

ZaneMan: 6:09

I'm not gonna I And watch it. You can't make me.

Jonni Boy: 6:11

HBO says Billy Batson is a streetwise 14 year old who can magically transform into the adult superhero Shazam! Simply by shouting out one word. His newfound powers soon get put to the test when the squares off against the evil Dr. Thaddeus Sanna. Dude, spoilers,

P Lantern: 6:30

You didn't even get to the start of the movie.

Jonni Boy: 6:32

I mean, that's just, you know, from what we have from HBO Max.

P Lantern: 6:36

Yeah. But hBO Max is giving a summary of the movie.

ZaneMan: 6:40

No one ever reads those before watching the movie, by the way.

Jonni Boy: 6:43

Yeah, well it's just a little introduction to know like what we're talking about.

ZaneMan: 6:46

that's not even a summary that gives away the whole book. No one would read that

P Lantern: 6:49

if an episode, I think Imwe can figure out, whichShazam is.

Jonni Boy: 6:54

Well, if you wanna watch any of the DC stuff, most of it is gonna be on HBO Max. So that's where you're gonna start. So this movie happens to be on HBO Max. All right, Shaza. So it basically starts off, uh, and you guys watched it, A car with a young Doctor of Savannah play with a Magic eight ball. His brother takes it, and both dad and him make fun of Sanna. The Magic Eight Ball shows some weird symbols. As a countdown, his dad and brother disappear, and the car arrives at the Council of Wizards.

P Lantern: 7:27

I think you should call Dr. Sanna Thaddius. Or there's, instead of going through and saying Dr. Silvan every time,

Jonni Boy: 7:35

or we could just say, Doctor

P Lantern: 7:37

Just call him thad

ZaneMan: 7:38

I think we call them Doc Ock. No one would ever get confused.

Jonni Boy: 7:40

They would get, they would probably get real confused.

ZaneMan: 7:42

No, they want no one else's name. Doc Ock. That's such a strange name. No one else we called that We should call him Dr. Strange.

Jonni Boy: 7:50

He is kind of strange.

ZaneMan: 7:51

Dr. Hugo Strange. Yeah.

P Lantern: 7:53

Mr. Clean.

Jonni Boy: 7:55

So his name is called By the Last of the Council of Wizards, that swore to protect the realms from the seven deadly sins. He seeks a champion to inherit his magic, but first he must demonstrate his pure of heart and strong in spirit. The two deadly sin bees. Tell him to take the eye wizard says No. Wizard says he'll never be worthy and flashes back to the car with brother and father and then they're in an accident and dad is injured.

ZaneMan: 8:25

Do does like every wizard have to shout?

P Lantern: 8:29

Yeah,

Jonni Boy: 8:29

I think so because nobody listens to him. He's an old guy.

ZaneMan: 8:32

Dr. Strange never shouted and he was kind of nice.

Jonni Boy: 8:36

but you know, he did say, this Scooby-Doo thing.

ZaneMan: 8:39

What? Oh yeah. Scooby do this ass word.

Jonni Boy: 8:42

Yeah. So he did say that.

ZaneMan: 8:44

He also says Do Mau, I've come to bargain.

Jonni Boy: 8:48

But they are always yelling. It must be a dad thing, I guess, or grandpa thing. Cause people don't listen to grandpa's anymore.

P Lantern: 8:54

Well how do you know that the Wizard is a grandpa?

Jonni Boy: 8:56

It does. He's got a big, long beard. That doesn't mean anything.

ZaneMan: 8:59

That's assumption.

Jonni Boy: 8:59

Later on he, he's beard, like he disappears being beard or he, you know, he disintegrates.

ZaneMan: 9:04

You're just being completely weirdest right now. Yeah. Everyone's seeing how beard you are.

Jonni Boy: 9:08

I know. Well I do have a beard, but it's not as long as the Wizards was.

P Lantern: 9:11

So you're jealous. You're indies

Jonni Boy: 9:13

could be. Nobody listens to me either, so maybe that's why they scream all the time.

ZaneMan: 9:17

No way. Envious was in the movie.

P Lantern: 9:19

Yeah, he was.

Jonni Boy: 9:20

See that's one of the seven Deadly Sins. Wizard does a seeking spell no matter how long it takes to find one who is worthy. So he's looking for someone who's worthy. It wasn't the Doc,

P Lantern: 9:32

it wasn't that bad.

ZaneMan: 9:34

It wasn't Dr. Hugo Strange.

Jonni Boy: 9:36

So then you see the Shazam! Title. We're in Philadelphia today. Billy Batson is outside a pawn shop. He calls and traps the police to use their computer to look for his mom. He is basically without parents.

ZaneMan: 9:50

Hey, He on the streets also stole that cop's lunch.

P Lantern: 9:53

Yeah. He was a foster kid.

Jonni Boy: 9:56

He was a foster kid. He ate the cops fries too, I think.

ZaneMan: 9:59

Well, he might have saved some. We never figured that out.

P Lantern: 10:02

Yeah. Well, yeah, he did ask the cop asked and cut the next thing.

Jonni Boy: 10:07

And it's finally not in a BTA tank, where they have a flashback.

ZaneMan: 10:10

yeah, I guess so.

Jonni Boy: 10:11

So Billy gets separated from his mom at a carnival. Billy shows up at the houses, address that he received from the police. and then the police show up.

ZaneMan: 10:21

Why do they show up?

Jonni Boy: 10:22

Well, it's not his mom. Right. And plus he left the, you know, he's not very smart. So he left the address up on the, on the, I was gonna say the back computer, but the police computer.

P Lantern: 10:33

Why does he know it's not his mom?

ZaneMan: 10:34

she tells him. Yeah. Is that what it is? Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 10:38

She's a different race than him. she's African American and he's white. Oh, caucasian.

ZaneMan: 10:44

Yep. Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 10:45

She's like, Really? And then the police show up. A couple take a Billy, to their group home. we meet Victor and Rosa, then Eugene, Darla, Mary, Pedro and Freddy.

ZaneMan: 10:56

In that order?

Jonni Boy: 10:58

Yes we do.

P Lantern: 10:59

Wow.

Jonni Boy: 11:00

You wrote down the order? Wrote down the order. Yeah.

P Lantern: 11:02

Nerd

ZaneMan: 11:04

for real.

Jonni Boy: 11:04

Eugene was playing video games. Then Darla comes up Mary's on the telephone. They, Mary Pedro is going, when he's going up the steps into Freddy's room and then he meets Freddy cuz he goes into Freddy's room.

P Lantern: 11:15

Pedro wants to be buff.

ZaneMan: 11:17

Yeah. Pedro's only goal is to be swollen

Jonni Boy: 11:21

and he looks pretty, he looks pretty swell,

P Lantern: 11:23

swollen in a different way.

Jonni Boy: 11:25

Freddy messes, um, with Billy and shows his batter ring and bullet shot at Superman in his Aquaman's shirt throughout the whole thing. I don't know if you guys noticed or not, but Brady is wearing superhero shirts throughout the whole thing.

P Lantern: 11:39

Yeah. Closer to, And he was wearing Green Lantern.

ZaneMan: 11:42

You don't, you mean P Lantern?

Jonni Boy: 11:46

Uh, Yeah. So yeah, he was wearing Aquaman at the beginning. You can barely see it, I think cuz he got a jacket on and then he, and then later on he's wearing Batman. Yeah. And then later on he is wearing Superman. And then you're saying that he was wearing Green Leonard. So yeah, I think he was representing all but Wonder Woman and he might have thrown a Wonder Woman t-shirt in there. Who knows?

ZaneMan: 12:08

Whoa. All the wonder Woman

P Lantern: 12:10

there was also sideboard. It's on justice. And then Mar Manhunt and Flash.

ZaneMan: 12:16

I've never heard any of those people.

P Lantern: 12:18

Oh, okay.

Jonni Boy: 12:20

So then they're in modern day, so they show the Doctor Sanna holding the Magic eight ball so we can kinda remember Hey, that's the little kid.

P Lantern: 12:28

Yeah. It's that with the other.

Jonni Boy: 12:29

So kind of, you know, jog. Oh, that must be the little kid.

ZaneMan: 12:32

That must be a little kid.

Jonni Boy: 12:34

And his assistant Dr. Lynn. Yeah. And they talk, to a subject Miss Kwan about, her same wizard test that Dr had as a child. Miss Quan has a video and shows it, and we see more and more subjects saying the same thing.

ZaneMan: 12:51

Yeah. Because

P Lantern: 12:52

what is she so show that's relevant to the story.

Jonni Boy: 12:55

She shows the symbols

ZaneMan: 12:57

he's keeping you in check, bro.

Jonni Boy: 12:58

I know.

ZaneMan: 12:59

Using that power ring of being correct.

Jonni Boy: 13:03

Yeah.

P Lantern: 13:04

Yeah. That's my, thing that controls the power correctness.

Jonni Boy: 13:07

He tapped me on the head all the way from where? Across the room with his finger using the

P Lantern: 13:12

Oh yeah.

Jonni Boy: 13:13

But it was like p p yellow.

P Lantern: 13:15

Oh, the green. Yeah.

ZaneMan: 13:16

That's great.

Jonni Boy: 13:17

Yeah. Dr. Sivan and his assistant go to his office and then, the doctor, basically puts the symbols on the door seven times. So he uses the seven symbols seven times

ZaneMan: 13:30

because the alarm clock had showed it, doing the symbol seven times over, which he somehow figured out on the first viewing.

P Lantern: 13:38

He's a pretty smart doctor. Pretty young guy though.

Jonni Boy: 13:40

I would've had to watch it a couple times.

P Lantern: 13:44

Imwe know.

ZaneMan: 13:44

I would've never remembered that.

Jonni Boy: 13:47

Well, the assistant touches the door and she disintegrates in there. So, you know, there goes Dr. Lynn,

ZaneMan: 13:53

you know, that's how my first relationship ended.

Jonni Boy: 13:56

Touch the door.

ZaneMan: 13:57

Yeah. I never saw her again.

P Lantern: 13:58

Well, so she didn't disintegrate. She was like, set a blade and that was basically how she went. She was like, turned to ashes and then she was like left as a pile on the floor.

ZaneMan: 14:10

Thanos.

Jonni Boy: 14:11

It was almost like in Indiana Jones. But the special effects were a little bit better.

P Lantern: 14:15

when she like, Oh, you mean like the arc of the covenant? Yeah. Like, and

Jonni Boy: 14:18

they're like screaming

P Lantern: 14:19

and get melted there. It's not like disintegration, they get melted, but

Jonni Boy: 14:23

I'm saying the special effects were a lot better. Oh yeah. Of they showed her from the bo like guess from the hand over. Yeah. And then the last thing to go was her, her face. And then she's like, Ah, she's screaming. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you like that? Yeah. That's goods good. That's crazy. I practiced that. The doctor goes through the door to, the groaning wizard. He's groaning now. He's getting, So I guess that means he's getting older. The wizard remembers him and says he is not pure of heart and takes the eye, the wizard. No,

ZaneMan: 14:56

he screams again.

Jonni Boy: 14:57

He says, No,

ZaneMan: 14:59

I mean, I, I don't scream and I'm not a wizard. I think there's something there

P Lantern: 15:03

to clarify. Fatus takes not the wizard. Sorry, Who fatus? The doctors. Yeah, the doctor

ZaneMan: 15:10

does. Yeah. You mean Dr. Hugo Strange from a city? No,

Jonni Boy: 15:15

tha is Sanna. Thaddius The two deadly sins. Fight the wizard and go into the eye. All of them do. And the eye is forced into the doctor's eye

P Lantern: 15:27

Sock it.

Jonni Boy: 15:28

Yeah, sock it.

ZaneMan: 15:29

And then he gets right back up immediately.

Jonni Boy: 15:31

I know. Like, you know, nothing really bothered him.

P Lantern: 15:34

Yeah. He just, you know, shut this little stone in his eyeball.

Jonni Boy: 15:37

Somebody just like force a thing into your eye and you wake up, you're fine. Got a little, a little scar.

P Lantern: 15:43

It's fine. Just put some glasses on. You straight.

ZaneMan: 15:46

Yeah. You wear an eye patch. Be like Nick Fury

Jonni Boy: 15:49

Could be, Yeah. But then maybe, I wonder if the seven deadly sins need to see what's going on. Maybe that's why they're the eye.

ZaneMan: 15:56

I don't think they really care.

P Lantern: 15:57

They kind of come like they emanate from the rest of them. So it's not just design.

Jonni Boy: 16:01

Yeah. It would've been more sinister maybe if you picked up the eye patch and then they all came out.

P Lantern: 16:05

Would it be sinister or would it be like opening a little hatch, like a trap door?

Jonni Boy: 16:10

Could be. I mean, people wouldn't expect it. They're just like, Oh, why is he wearing an eye patch? And then you, Oh my goodness. Look at his eye. And then all of a sudden the deadly sins.

P Lantern: 16:17

Is that sinister or does he just look a little silly?

ZaneMan: 16:19

I think it's a neat party trick.

P Lantern: 16:21

I mean, it is a neat party trick. He's already a go.

Jonni Boy: 16:23

Freddie talks to Billy and knows he's going to run because he stole the Superman bullet. The bullies pick on Freddie and Billy saves Freddy and runs into the subway and he gets away.

P Lantern: 16:36

The bullies hit Freddy with their car. You missed that whole thing.

Jonni Boy: 16:42

Well, I wasn't really gonna go into how they bullied him.

P Lantern: 16:45

They hit him with a car that bullying. That's assault.

Jonni Boy: 16:49

Yeah. And then they blamed him for it.

ZaneMan: 16:52

Yeah. Well, I mean, he shouldn't have been standing there while he got hit.

P Lantern: 16:55

Yeah, he was in the way. But he did have something to give him afterwards.

ZaneMan: 16:58

He was on the sidewalk.

Jonni Boy: 17:00

Yeah, he was the subway train. Arrives to the wizard, says he's the last of the Council of Wizards. Like he told, uh, the doctor Keeper of the Rock of Eternity. He chooses Billy Batson as champion. His brothers and sisters slain by the sins. Their thrones lie empty. The wizard says to touch his staff and speak his name. His name is Shazam! Shazam!.

ZaneMan: 17:29

Say Shazam sha good old ppp boy.

Jonni Boy: 17:34

Billy says Shazam!

ZaneMan: 17:38

Shazam!

Jonni Boy: 17:41

Wizard says, Carry my, name and all my powers. And he gives them the wisdom of Solomon, the strength of Hercules, the stamina of Atlas, the power of Zeus, the courage of Achilles and the speed of Mercury.

ZaneMan: 17:55

Why know, like Norris Gods, I don't know. I feel like that's, leaving people out.

P Lantern: 18:00

it's not a DC thing. They do like spartan gods type stuff. Like

ZaneMan: 18:06

that's boring.

Jonni Boy: 18:06

But he did tell that whole story with this little like, magic and it looked like the story of the black Adam.

ZaneMan: 18:14

Whoa. Yeah. He did kind of look like the story of, I I did notice that.

P Lantern: 18:17

Call forward.

Jonni Boy: 18:20

he basically showed like a little, flashback thing, but it was like in his magic and it looked like...

ZaneMan: 18:25

the Rock Johnson. Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 18:26

Yeah. Another champion,

P Lantern: 18:28

Dwayne Johnson

Jonni Boy: 18:29

that basically took Dwayne over the seven deadly sins. So that might come into play. Yeah.

P Lantern: 18:34

The Rock.

Jonni Boy: 18:34

He was actually supposed to be in this movie, but they decided to do a sequel, and do his own movie. Right. So they, didn't include him.

ZaneMan: 18:42

If that was a sequel, then why is there gonna be a Shazam too?

P Lantern: 18:47

Cause it's black Adam in Shazam!

Jonni Boy: 18:53

Shazam! Even gonna be a part of it. I guess. Wizard transformed, to his greatest potential. Billy Batson. And then he says, the thrones of our brothers and sisters await. And then the wizard disintegrates.

P Lantern: 19:07

Well, yeah, he does. He doesn't like burst in the flame. It's like a, you know, a demonn thing. He just kind of is like, Oooooo! And then turns to dust.

ZaneMan: 19:17

His impression was better. And you said you practiced yours.

Jonni Boy: 19:19

That was a lot better. What did he do again?

P Lantern: 19:22

Ooooo! Dust defies himself.

ZaneMan: 19:24

Try to do it, Huh? Can you?

Jonni Boy: 19:27

Oooooooo!

ZaneMan: 19:27

That was horrible.

Jonni Boy: 19:27

Excuse me. Wasn't that more like, that sound like more like a ghost didn't it? Ooooooo! Yeah, that's what it sounds,

P Lantern: 19:32

That's what it sounds like.

ZaneMan: 19:33

I think he need practice more.

Jonni Boy: 19:35

I didn't practice

ZaneMan: 19:36

you losing your touch time.

Jonni Boy: 19:36

I know.

P Lantern: 19:37

Yeah. It sounds like he's getting a wedge.

Jonni Boy: 19:39

So Shazam wakes up on the subway. He's all dressed up in his outfit, and he walks through the subway dressed as Shazam.

ZaneMan: 19:47

He didn't really have a choice.

P Lantern: 19:49

Yeah,

ZaneMan: 19:49

he know. He didn't know how to like change

P Lantern: 19:51

back so he was just like Shazamed out,

Jonni Boy: 19:55

Yeah. But the guy on the subways, like, I like your choice and outfit, man. I mean, come on. Red, yellow, white or a cape.

ZaneMan: 20:02

Yeah, I, I mean that guy was pretty cool. I like him.

P Lantern: 20:04

Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 20:05

His cape never got dirty though. You would think his cape would get D dirty and he would need some Clorox. But Cape never got dirty, if you noticed.

P Lantern: 20:12

I mean, Yeah, but it also didn't rip either. So if it's not gonna rip, it's probably not gonna get stained.

ZaneMan: 20:16

You think every time he says to Shazam! And turns back into Billy Batson and it like goes to the dry cleaners?

Jonni Boy: 20:21

It could.

P Lantern: 20:22

I would love to know how he removes it.

ZaneMan: 20:25

He just doesn't,

Jonni Boy: 20:25

it doesn't go into a ring or anything like, the flash flash?

ZaneMan: 20:29

I mean, magic pe lantern goes into a ring.

Jonni Boy: 20:35

That is true.

P Lantern: 20:36

Okay. We'll discuss the logistics of pe lantern later. We'll like draw it out. And

Jonni Boy: 20:41

do we want to give another name or do we wanna wait?

ZaneMan: 20:43

You can go ahead. I already gave Pee P Boy. I like that one.

P Lantern: 20:46

Shut up Zane.

ZaneMan: 20:47

Alright Pisco.

Jonni Boy: 20:48

So I had human pea storm.

ZaneMan: 20:51

Yeah, Human pea storm.

P Lantern: 20:53

Oh yeah.

ZaneMan: 20:55

Any thoughts?

P Lantern: 20:56

The yellow storm.

ZaneMan: 20:57

The yellow storm?

Jonni Boy: 20:58

Yeah. I mean, that would probably take over Green Lantern or P Lan?

ZaneMan: 21:02

Yellow rain.

P Lantern: 21:03

Oh yeah. Okay.

Jonni Boy: 21:04

We're just trying'em on. We'll see how they work. We don't know if,

ZaneMan: 21:07

the P Cyclone

Jonni Boy: 21:09

or it could just be like, he could be one of the Xmen and be P Storm

ZaneMan: 21:13

Oral p.

P Lantern: 21:14

All right. Why is that all liquid related?

Jonni Boy: 21:16

I don't know. It's funny though.

P Lantern: 21:18

It could be clash

ZaneMan: 21:20

p Hurricane,

P Lantern: 21:21

All right.

Jonni Boy: 21:22

So, Victor and Rosa are talking to the police about Billy running away. Shazam! Goes to the window to Freddy, tells Freddy to meet him after lights out. Then they do the superhero montage,

ZaneMan: 21:35

montage,

Jonni Boy: 21:35

montage,

ZaneMan: 21:37

montage

Jonni Boy: 21:37

in this little montage. So I don't get, you know, stopped by P Man over there there's a robbery that's not really a robbery and there's also something else that happens.

ZaneMan: 21:50

You forgot

Jonni Boy: 21:51

another robbery There's like two robberies. but basically it's a superhero montage he's like hyper speed check electricity, manipulation, check super strength check bullet immunity, check body manipulation, check

ZaneMan: 22:10

body manipulation.

Jonni Boy: 22:11

Yeah. Cuz he says Shazam and he goes down to the little kid.

ZaneMan: 22:15

Oh yeah.

P Lantern: 22:16

I mean, is that body manipulation or is it just like transformation?

ZaneMan: 22:20

I would call it a metamorphosis.

Jonni Boy: 22:23

That's what he said. That's what Freddy said. So I don't know. That's the words that he used.

P Lantern: 22:27

I mean, yeah,

Jonni Boy: 22:27

he's the Hero guy. He would probably know.

P Lantern: 22:30

I mean, that's true. He would probably know.

ZaneMan: 22:33

He kind of wouldn't know though.

P Lantern: 22:34

Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 22:35

So they went to go buy. Didn't like the beer. So they went back in to buy a bunch of snacks. But while they were trying to get the beers, when the guys robbed the store, and then they were shooting him with bullets and then Freddy's like wanted to take a video of it. So they started shooting him. He gives the guy the gun back and they start shooting him again. And then he is like, Shoot him in the face. Shoot him in the face. Yeah. So there was some other things that happened during that whole montage, but I just basically was a superhero montage, which we see again a little bit later on

ZaneMan: 23:04

top. Spoiling everything, bro.

Jonni Boy: 23:06

Well, I'm just, you know, it's 2009. People have seen that.

P Lantern: 23:08

2019

ZaneMan: 23:09

it's 2009.

Jonni Boy: 23:11

See, it's been that long.

P Lantern: 23:13

It hasn't been now back. It's three years.

ZaneMan: 23:16

The powers of the p lantern,

Jonni Boy: 23:19

the human peace storm.

P Lantern: 23:21

Right.

Jonni Boy: 23:23

Peace storm. Freddy sneaks Billy home and he transforms back to Billy by saying,

ZaneMan: 23:31

Shazam!

P Lantern: 23:32

Shazam!

Jonni Boy: 23:33

Dr. Silva confronts, his brother and father. By unleashing the seven deadly sins on the board and its members, the sins, reveal. The wizard has found his champion. They say to kill the champion before he finds his true potential, or he will defeat. He asked to show me where to find him.

ZaneMan: 23:56

Did he find out where he was?

Jonni Boy: 23:58

we don't know yet. Cuts back to Freddie and Billy doing a video superhero test. he can charge phones, is handy. I guess

ZaneMan: 24:05

it is kind of hand. I I mean he did blow up that one guy's phone by charging it.

P Lantern: 24:10

Yeah. And it's probably an Android though. It's like a Samsung. Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 24:14

Oh yeah. Those will blow up. Just sleeping with them. Yeah. Yeah. And then they just decided to purchase a layer. They were trying to get a layer.

ZaneMan: 24:24

Yeah. They were like, can we get like a waterfall to drive through?

P Lantern: 24:27

you skipped over the part where they were doing the whole montage of the YouTube channel with all the videos, which is before the,

Jonni Boy: 24:35

that was a superhero montage. It was another montage. I mean, it was like,

P Lantern: 24:39

And they were testing it, and they sets him on fire in a box.

Jonni Boy: 24:42

Yeah. He, was supposed to be in the box for something else. Oh, between the vox per teleportation. Teleportation. And he said secret fire test and he lights him on fire. Yeah. There was like 13 or more videos that they did from what I saw.

ZaneMan: 24:54

And then every single one of'em, the name was different.

Jonni Boy: 24:56

Yes. It was

ZaneMan: 24:57

fun. Fact of the day.

Jonni Boy: 24:59

Then, Freddy and Billy have a falling out. Billy leaves school and shows off. Shazam! Saves a bus, but it's a bus that he hit with lightning. So it's kinda like he caused the save and then he is interviewed by the news.

ZaneMan: 25:15

he's like, I just saved those people. And then Freddy put is like, has a good point. And he's just like, Well, you also caused it. So kind of like cancels out there.

P Lantern: 25:25

Then Freddy was like, You're kind of a, a bully. You're kind of rude and you suck.

ZaneMan: 25:30

Kind of a, a meany head now.

P Lantern: 25:32

Yeah. He's like, Wow. You, know, you're a Hero now and you're just big head. You big fat, head. You know about yourself.

ZaneMan: 25:40

Yeah. You're kind of ugly too. What's sad about Yeah.

P Lantern: 25:43

Yeah. What's sad about Grown man? you're ugly.

Jonni Boy: 25:46

Dr. Sanna shows up and tells Shazam! To give him his power. They fight Shazam!, learns he can fly. The fight continues in a mall, he says Shazam! And turns into Billy and Dr. Sanna realizes that Freddy knows Billy Bump, bump bum

ZaneMan: 26:05

because for some reason it was playing right on the TV right there. And then he looked over and he saw Freddy calling for Billy. It's kind of an easy connection if you think about it.

P Lantern: 26:12

Yeah, it is actually pretty, I mean, I couldn't put that together and I can't even put this circle in the circle hole.

ZaneMan: 26:18

Wait, so you know which hole it goes into, but you just lack the. To put it in the hole.

P Lantern: 26:23

No, I like the ability to discern which one is the circle hole.

ZaneMan: 26:27

Oh, but you know what they're called.

P Lantern: 26:29

I mean, yeah. I guess in movies.

ZaneMan: 26:32

I guess that's general knowledge.

Jonni Boy: 26:33

So the group home kids also figure out that Billy is Shazam! Just by watching the news and they confront him. And Eugene has found out where, Billy's mom is and Mary says that she's only two Subway stops away.

ZaneMan: 26:50

Yeah. I mean, but you skipped pass apart where it's like, But you couldn't find her cuz she ever into her maiden name.

Jonni Boy: 26:59

Oh, okay.

ZaneMan: 27:00

Yeah.

P Lantern: 27:01

Also the kids didn't figure it out cuz TV Mary figured it out because, Ellie was like, as you know, Shaza, he was like, you know, since you live in a foster home, and he also knew her name.

ZaneMan: 27:14

I mean, I didn't, I didn't say foster home. I said, not a foster home.

P Lantern: 27:18

Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 27:20

Well Darla was happy because Darla knew. Yeah, she was when they snuck in.

ZaneMan: 27:24

You guys figured on your own. I didn't tell you anything. I'm a good sister.

P Lantern: 27:28

Darla is the best character

ZaneMan: 27:29

Pisco thinks that Darla's the best charact.

Jonni Boy: 27:32

Billy runs off to find his mom, and Freddy shows up with Dr. Sanna at the group home. Billy knocks on mom's door, tells Billy she, saw him and explains that she was 17 and her dad kicked her out and the police could raise him. And then she tells him, Now's not a really good time. And then Billy's like, Well, I'm gonna go back to my family. So he kind of realized that he's got a family now.

ZaneMan: 27:58

Don torero. Yeah.

P Lantern: 28:00

he gets a call, actually while he's leaving. and that's why he heads back so quickly.

ZaneMan: 28:07

You hear that he's powering up.

Jonni Boy: 28:09

He is. Because basically the next thing on my list is Freddy calls for him to come home. Like, Read my mind. Did you watch the same movie I did?

P Lantern: 28:17

No.

Jonni Boy: 28:18

It was a different movie. Okay.

P Lantern: 28:19

Yeah, I watched Shaza too.

Jonni Boy: 28:21

Shazam. Shazam! Two

P Lantern: 28:23

Shazam!

Jonni Boy: 28:24

Dr. Sanna opens the door to the wizard layer and then, they discuss, Ian alone. The doctor grabs the staff and says the champion's name sends say the same thing as Dr. Sanna. The kids come to Suzanne's rescue. The door has disappeared and they come across a lot of doors. Suzanne thinks about, uh, they, they're like, Can you get us outta here like you did last time? And so the only thing he could think about was a place that he visited. When he was trying to get the beers and everything, it was a gentleman's club.

ZaneMan: 28:58

A gentleman's club.

Jonni Boy: 29:00

So they go to the gentleman's club, they disappeared there.

ZaneMan: 29:04

They were covering Darla's eyes.

Jonni Boy: 29:05

Yeah. So they were coming out of there and Mary's giving him, I can't believe you,

P Lantern: 29:09

Freddy stayed behind a little longer.

ZaneMan: 29:11

Yeah. Freddy stayed in there a little bit.

Jonni Boy: 29:13

He was macking on some of the girls in there.

P Lantern: 29:15

There you go.

Jonni Boy: 29:17

They all go to the carnival and Santa tells everyone to run because Santa knows what's going on. Because he was in the mall.

ZaneMan: 29:23

Santa was in the first mall too.

Jonni Boy: 29:25

Yeah, when it, originally took place. So he is like, Everybody get outta here.

ZaneMan: 29:29

there was a DLC for, I think it was, Lego, DC super villains, and it was about the Shaza movie. And I got, I got to play a couple levels of that.

Jonni Boy: 29:40

Oh, that's cool. Shazam says to his family, if a superhero can't save his family, he's not much of a superhero. Dr. Sianna and Shazam fight. the doctor unleashes the sins. Freddy figures out when the Demonn guys leave his eye, he loses his powers.

ZaneMan: 29:59

do you know how they figured that out potter,

Jonni Boy: 30:02

when they were at the Wizards layer, they threw the battering,

ZaneMan: 30:07

the battering.

Jonni Boy: 30:08

Freddy's battering that. Billy was gonna probably.

ZaneMan: 30:13

Yeah, it was like worth, I don't remember what he said.

P Lantern: 30:16

Well, he didn't say how much that one was worth. He said how much the bullet was worth. And he was like, That's fair. That's like 506.

Jonni Boy: 30:21

But it cut him on the back of the head. So that's how he kind of figured out the kids divide and conquer by unleashing more sins. The doctor captures the kids. Shaza gets, hands on his staff and then he remembers the words of the Wizard of the Thrones of our brothers and sisters Await. He was like family. Yeah. Shazam! Grabs the staff, insists to the kids all hands on deck to say his name and they're like,

ZaneMan: 30:50

Billy

P Lantern: 30:53

Billy.

ZaneMan: 30:55

Is that Darla?

P Lantern: 30:56

Yeah. That was Darla

Jonni Boy: 30:57

then they say Shazam!

ZaneMan: 31:00

Shazam!

P Lantern: 31:01

Shazam!

Jonni Boy: 31:02

And they're all the Shazam! Family.

ZaneMan: 31:05

They're Shazamily

Jonni Boy: 31:06

but in the show they say like, Superhero Darla. Superhero Eugene.

ZaneMan: 31:11

I saw the,

Jonni Boy: 31:11

Yeah. So they don't really give them, I guess, They're names yet,

ZaneMan: 31:15

I think in the Lego game they were all called Shazam! And then in, parenthesis it said

P Lantern: 31:21

the names of each of'em,

ZaneMan: 31:22

the names of each of'em.

P Lantern: 31:23

They should have been like Pel Sha

ZaneMan: 31:28

Shaza.

P Lantern: 31:30

Yeah, I was thinking that one.

ZaneMan: 31:32

A red girl shed

Jonni Boy: 31:35

shed Girl. We could call Patrick Pza.

ZaneMan: 31:38

Pza.

P Lantern: 31:40

You guys, your strong suit is not making names. That's what it is.

ZaneMan: 31:43

What if we called you black? P

P Lantern: 31:46

I don't like the name.

Jonni Boy: 31:47

That sounds like a condition.

ZaneMan: 31:49

It is a condition.

Jonni Boy: 31:50

It sounds like a condition.

P Lantern: 31:51

All right.

Jonni Boy: 31:52

Dr. Sanna unleashes the sins and, the Shaza team take on the sins while Shaza and doctor fight in flight. Fight,

ZaneMan: 32:03

fight and flight. Fight and flight, fight and

P Lantern: 32:05

flight, fight or flight.

Jonni Boy: 32:09

Doctor does evil speech, but he's like 10 miles away. So like Shazams, Like what

P Lantern: 32:14

you mean fad?

Jonni Boy: 32:16

Yeah. He's like, What? What are you saying?

ZaneMan: 32:18

You mean dr. Hugo Strain from Arkham City At the very beginning,

Jonni Boy: 32:22

people are gonna be so confused.

P Lantern: 32:24

Yeah, it's okay.

ZaneMan: 32:25

That's my goal.

Jonni Boy: 32:26

Envy comes out of doctor and he loses the power. And Shaza captures Dr. Silva. Shaza takes the eye from the doctor. What Doctor s.

P Lantern: 32:39

Oh, no, no. It's Dr. Strange.

ZaneMan: 32:43

It's Dr. Hugo Strange from Aham City.

Jonni Boy: 32:46

Shazam and family restore the eye of the demons to the layer. The demons or the evil sins are back

ZaneMan: 32:55

in the little statues.

Jonni Boy: 32:56

In the statues, and everything is all right with the world again. However, there's like a mid credit scene.

ZaneMan: 33:03

You forgot a part.

Jonni Boy: 33:04

What part did I forget?

ZaneMan: 33:05

they were like, at the end he was like, Hey, Billy, you know what this is? You know, you know what we're standing in right now?

P Lantern: 33:12

Oh, layer.

Jonni Boy: 33:14

That's true. They finally got, finally got the layer.

P Lantern: 33:16

Exactly.

Jonni Boy: 33:18

We didn't talk about it, but when they were like, you know, Freddy and, Billy were fighting and Billy went off and skipped school and wanted to be, you know, Shazam and get money. Freddy wanted him to come back and eat lunch with him, and he didn't because he had told people that he was friends with Shazam.

ZaneMan: 33:35

That's, it happened.

Jonni Boy: 33:37

So at the mid credit scene, Freddy gets lunch at school and everybody that was sitting at the table that he sat down with got up the family sits down with him. He's like, What are you guys doing? We're like, We're here to have lunch with you.

ZaneMan: 33:49

And then he asked, Darla, what was going on? Cuz he knew that she would probably try to.

Jonni Boy: 33:53

Yeah. And she's like, I'm over here eating. She's like, My mouth is full darling's. Like,

P Lantern: 33:58

I, I don't know what, I'm just eating my lunch, man.

ZaneMan: 34:01

I can't, I can't hear you loud in here. Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 34:05

So Shaza shows up.

ZaneMan: 34:07

Shazam

Jonni Boy: 34:08

and then his best bud, he invited Superman.

ZaneMan: 34:14

Oh,

P Lantern: 34:16

he invited Aquaman,

Jonni Boy: 34:17

Jason Superman in there, but Superman didn't have a head.

ZaneMan: 34:21

No man was like kind of, um, decapitated, I guess.

P Lantern: 34:25

Yeah. And he looked a little small

Jonni Boy: 34:27

and his suit wasn't the like suit that we know the, like the new Henry Caval suit. It was more like the suit before that.

P Lantern: 34:37

Right.

Jonni Boy: 34:38

Or a mixture of both suits. I don't know.

ZaneMan: 34:40

Yeah. Confusing.

Jonni Boy: 34:42

But they probably couldn't get Henry Cav to

P Lantern: 34:44

Well, yeah, it, they probably to probably pay him extra for that little thingy and it would've been worth it.

ZaneMan: 34:49

You probably don't wanna shave a beard.

Jonni Boy: 34:51

Yeah.

ZaneMan: 34:51

I mean, so true.

Jonni Boy: 34:53

So Shaza I thought was a good movie for, you know, all the problems that DC has with most of their movies. Yeah. It seems like they can't ever get things started. And you know, it's like, do I want to get invested into the DC Universe? Which I don't know if you've heard, have you heard who's in charge of the DC universe now? Um,

ZaneMan: 35:16

Tony Stark.

Jonni Boy: 35:18

No. James Gunn,

ZaneMan: 35:24

James Gunn,

Jonni Boy: 35:25

James Gun, and another gentleman are in charge of the dc They called it the d c u now. It's just the d c u

ZaneMan: 35:33

wasn't like Ja. what was his name? Shaza. James Gunn. wasn't James Gunn the guy who played the Weasel in the Suicide squad? That was his brother. Wasn't that Jason Segal? I don't know what his name is.

Jonni Boy: 35:47

Oh, was the other guy Jason Segal? Yeah. Close. So anyway, they're gonna be in charge of the d c so maybe we'll start to see some stump stuff. That, and we still see some of the stuff that kind of goes together. Like they had Superman in this, show, but it just seems like it's been discombobulated. Like Wonder Woman, 1984, Dana and I had a, a real good nap through that. it was a good, We had no idea what was going on through that movie and woke up and then she's fighting a cat and we're like, What's going on? And it was like crazy. Aquaman was good. The first Wonder Woman was good. Shaza was good. People don't like Man of Steel. You know the Batman versus Superman? They liked some of them did. Some of'em didn't. Yeah. Justice League was terrible until Zach Snyder put his Justice League and then it was so super long that you could probably only watch it really one time, cuz who had six hours was good.

ZaneMan: 36:44

so how would you rate it on a list of all the DC movies that you've seen?

Jonni Boy: 36:50

So where would I rate Shaza?

ZaneMan: 36:53

No, how where would you rate Shazam?

Jonni Boy: 36:56

Shaza

P Lantern: 36:57

Shaza?

Jonni Boy: 36:58

Well, I'm always a Batman fan,

ZaneMan: 37:00

to mean a bat fan.

Jonni Boy: 37:02

That too.

P Lantern: 37:03

Or a Fat Man

Jonni Boy: 37:05

or that

ZaneMan: 37:05

or a Fat fan.

Jonni Boy: 37:06

Although I'm Slimming down now. Slimming Down now I would think that I really liked the First Wonder Woman.

ZaneMan: 37:13

Was that an SNL reference?

Jonni Boy: 37:15

Yes. Glad that you noticed that. And I liked Superman. It was right. I would say Shazam probably goes like, I would, I would probably go Wonder Woman. Aquaman Shaza. And then, what was the other one? I'm missing one.

ZaneMan: 37:38

Black Adam.

P Lantern: 37:40

Batman.

ZaneMan: 37:41

Batman.

Jonni Boy: 37:41

Superman, Man of Steel.

P Lantern: 37:43

Oh yeah.

Jonni Boy: 37:44

I like the Batman, but I don't know where I would put Batman cuz it wasn't, They've had so many Batmans

P Lantern: 37:49

I liked most of the Batman movies.

ZaneMan: 37:51

I like the Dark Night.

Jonni Boy: 37:53

Yeah, I think the Batman is like a kind of a, just another category in itself.

P Lantern: 37:57

Right.

Jonni Boy: 37:58

And we talked about that when we looked at the Batman, so that's why I would rank just those movies. What about.

ZaneMan: 38:05

I'm gonna move this over to, p lantern slash Human P Storm.

P Lantern: 38:10

I'm gonna ignore the names throughout this podcast.

Jonni Boy: 38:13

Black P,

ZaneMan: 38:15

Black p

P Lantern: 38:15

I'm gonna just ignore all of that and I'm just gonna say most the Batman movies I liked more than I need of the DC movies. Just cause I'm a big Batman fan, so I gotta say Batman first. Always an Aquaman. I like that one. it's kind of a toss up for Wonder Woman and, Superman. I didn't really like suit the Superman movies. I thought they were a little silly. especially the whole, that may be Superman thing, Concepts dumb. so I'd have to say Aquaman then Wonder Woman, then Suzanne, then, Superman.

ZaneMan: 38:50

I'm thinking that Man, The Dark Night and then everything just below it.

P Lantern: 38:54

That one.

Jonni Boy: 38:55

Yeah. And we didn't even talk about the Suicide Squad and Suicide Squad.

P Lantern: 39:00

Well, you didn't mention green Lantern movies either.

Jonni Boy: 39:03

Didn't mention that.

P Lantern: 39:03

Oh flash.

Jonni Boy: 39:04

Yeah, the Flash movies coming. There's just been so much start stop thing that, and then they canceled the Back Girl movie, so there's been so much to that start stop thing. You really just don't know how much you can really. Invested into the D C E U now? The D C U.

ZaneMan: 39:21

I think that the suicide squad was pretty good. I don't think it's the best it could have been, but it was definitely better than just normal suicide squad.

P Lantern: 39:30

You're saying that Suicide Squad two was better than the first one?

ZaneMan: 39:33

Yeah. The Suicide Squad is better than a suicide squad.

Jonni Boy: 39:36

I don't know, I think I'd hold both of those kind of together, but I think that the show that James Gunn did, that was good.

ZaneMan: 39:43

I don't know what you're talking about.

P Lantern: 39:44

I have no idea what he's talking about.

Jonni Boy: 39:46

You know what I'm talking about. We watched the whole show together.

P Lantern: 39:48

I wasn't there for that. I don't live here.

Jonni Boy: 39:50

The Iron Patriot. What was the guy dressed up?

P Lantern: 39:53

Oh, oh, you mean the guy with the silver helmet? John Cena. Yes. Peacemaker.

Jonni Boy: 39:59

Whatever. Peacemaker.

ZaneMan: 40:00

I had no clue what you were talking about.

Jonni Boy: 40:02

Yeah, yeah. James Gunn Did that show after suicide? Or the Suicide Squad? I like that. We like that show.

ZaneMan: 40:09

I think if at the end of the Suicide squad that Peacemaker was killed, it would've been probably a better movie.

P Lantern: 40:16

Thought he was.

Jonni Boy: 40:17

Yeah. I think they were going to kill him, but then they decided they were gonna do the show especially

ZaneMan: 40:21

and you got picked up for a movie, so like yeah. The credit scene. So, of'em.

Jonni Boy: 40:24

Yeah.

P Lantern: 40:25

Both of the suicide squad movies I thought weren't that good. The first one, they fought some random villain and just kind of like threw'em all together, which, I mean, I get the throwing all together part. It's kind of what the Suicide Squad is, but like, just like randomly just being like, Oh yeah, you guys gotta go off like this thing and whatever. That's how both the movies were and I didn't like that at all.

ZaneMan: 40:49

I just didn't like how the villain of the original suicide squad was like, kind of self made. Like they had the witch contained and then they didn't, and then they had to fight basically the person that they had that was gonna fight something else.

P Lantern: 41:05

Yeah. It kind of sucked to be honest. And, you know, I don't know. Will Smith wasn't in the second movie, so it was kind of like facts

Jonni Boy: 41:12

and he was supposed to be

P Lantern: 41:13

Yeah,

Jonni Boy: 41:14

that's why they had that other character that was like him. So Itel, Yes.

ZaneMan: 41:18

I think we should now, I, I don't mean to rush us, but we have a lot to talk about in the show party.

Jonni Boy: 41:23

Well, we do. but just real quick, Black, Great. Adam is out in theaters now. We will talk about that on our next episode. And, Shazam Theory of the Gods will be released March 17th, 2023. All right, so we're gonna get into this TV show.

ZaneMan: 41:40

Yeah. We're gonna go into the TV.

Jonni Boy: 41:42

Let's get into the TV show. Here we go.

Daddylacus: 41:45

You're watching TV on the Hero, Chat Show.

Jonni Boy: 41:51

Andor Wednesdays on Disney plus. The release date for Andor was September the 21st, 2022 through November 23rd, 2022. We had three episodes that popped up. We are going to talk about episodes one through six and you'll understand why.

ZaneMan: 42:10

Buckle up.

Jonni Boy: 42:10

Buckle up, buckle in starring Diego Luna as captain. Cassian Andor Stellan scars guard at Luther Rale. And when Aine O'Reilly as Bon Maha, it says on I M B D, Prequal series to star Wars, Rogue, One and an era filled with danger, perception and intrigue. Cassian will embark on the path that is destined to turn him into a rebel Hero.

ZaneMan: 42:40

No way.

Jonni Boy: 42:42

Yeah. Written by Tony Gilroy, who also wrote Rogue One. so we're gonna break down episodes one through six, and if you look at episodes one through three, it's pretty much on phs. But does, unlike book Boa Fe, it does highlight other planets like Morani and can. And then episodes four through six Aldon plays the on the backdrop for these episodes, but they do go to Corson, a little bit as well.

ZaneMan: 43:08

Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 43:09

So episode one is Casa Cassian Andor ORs reckless search for answers about his past makes him a wanted man. So we show up on Marani one, the pre morani corporate zone, and they give us a date. They've never given us a date on Star Wars anything b b y five,

ZaneMan: 43:29

which means five years before the Battle of Ye.

Jonni Boy: 43:35

Before the Battle of Event. Yes.

ZaneMan: 43:36

Yeah. It's five years after.

Jonni Boy: 43:38

Before it's raining, it's pouring. The old man is snoring and or approaches the city.

ZaneMan: 43:45

Did you write those exact words in your notes?

Jonni Boy: 43:48

Yeah.

ZaneMan: 43:48

Okay.

Jonni Boy: 43:50

And or approaches. The city reminds me of, Amsterdam, with aliens and bubble windows and or makes his way to a shady bar.

ZaneMan: 43:58

I'm sorry, you said aliens? In andor.

Jonni Boy: 44:01

Yeah. On this particular planet. There were aliens. I'm surprised. I know. Andor talks to a worker with, um, two CI guards are upset with a service and with Andor and or is looking for a girl from Kaari his. And or leaves the century guards Follow and ask and or stop.

ZaneMan: 44:25

Are they, how old are they? Are they wizards?

Jonni Boy: 44:28

They might be wizards.

P Lantern: 44:29

They gotta be grandpas evidently

Jonni Boy: 44:31

but they're older.

ZaneMan: 44:32

Gotta be grandpas to scream Nowadays.

Jonni Boy: 44:35

They need and ORs, corporate id since they are in the corporate zone also a visitor's curfew is in effect. Guards pull a blaster on and or, and go to get credits from him and, and or fights them accidentally killing one and blasting the other and or leaves.

ZaneMan: 44:54

He's kind of like strong or something.

Jonni Boy: 44:57

He headbutts the guy and the guy and the kid falls down and he's dead.

ZaneMan: 45:01

Yeah.

P Lantern: 45:02

He's just like me. For real?

Jonni Boy: 45:03

Yeah. He's like, bam, Must be one of his superpowers. He's got like a hard head.

ZaneMan: 45:07

We need like Freddy in here to like test out his superpowers.

Jonni Boy: 45:09

Yeah. We need to do a superhero montage.

P Lantern: 45:11

Yeah, exactly. Except they're not superheroes.

Jonni Boy: 45:14

Exactly. We have star Wars montage.

ZaneMan: 45:16

It would be a star Wars montage. Hero montage of Freddie montage.

Jonni Boy: 45:20

We should do more montages in star Wars because all they have is meetings. They always in a meeting. They're always meeting about something.

ZaneMan: 45:26

Well, that's just how like the flash was too. They always had to go out into the hallway

Jonni Boy: 45:30

and talk about, like, say if we wanted to go out and talk about Patrick, we'd have to go out in the hallway.

ZaneMan: 45:34

Who's Patrick? I don't

Jonni Boy: 45:35

P man. Oh, oh, P man. P mean.

ZaneMan: 45:38

Good old Pisco right over there.

Jonni Boy: 45:39

Black P. Black P.

P Lantern: 45:41

That's what the ladies.

Jonni Boy: 45:44

So they're on fair. And that's also in the Melan system. It's a free trade zone. b2, emo, which a lot of people were like, Hey, if they called him emo, that would've been a lot cooler.

ZaneMan: 45:55

That's what I said.

Jonni Boy: 45:56

Yeah. And you said that too. But they didn't call him that. He's rolling through the town and junk wastelands and to, and or sleeping in an abandoned Starship. They flashback to Kaari because basically B2 is calling Cassian. Andor hear? He hears Casa

ZaneMan: 46:14

Casa.

Jonni Boy: 46:14

Yes. And or is called Casa. And he is awakened by his sister Carrie, in a village of all kids to a star ship flying past him. That's on fire.

ZaneMan: 46:27

Yeah. That seems right. Well, we're still flying half a ship.

Jonni Boy: 46:31

We got a little bit of something going on.

ZaneMan: 46:33

What I

Jonni Boy: 46:34

It's smoking out of the back.

ZaneMan: 46:35

What are you talking? I was referencing a star Wars.

Jonni Boy: 46:39

I was just, I was chiming in.

ZaneMan: 46:42

Is that like some maintenance worker on the death start?

Jonni Boy: 46:44

Yeah. Just poor maintenance guys.

P Lantern: 46:47

Imwe got smoke coming out the back.

ZaneMan: 46:49

I don't think this is right.

Jonni Boy: 46:50

I think we're going down Captain.

P Lantern: 46:53

Like some guy on the dust star is like the last one. Guys, guys, it's smoking in here.

Jonni Boy: 46:59

Something I smell. Do you smell eggs? It smells like fire somebody. Is it gas?

ZaneMan: 47:05

Yo guys? Do you remember that? Like small little old that's like the size of a swamp rat. Do you think like someone might have gotten like a proton torpedo in there or something? Cause I'm, I'm kinda worried.

Jonni Boy: 47:16

I don't think so. that exhaust port's just too small for one of those types of uh,

ZaneMan: 47:21

I think only someone who used to bullseye w rats

Jonni Boy: 47:25

Could be, but he might have to go to Tashi station to pick up some power converters.

ZaneMan: 47:28

You probably would have to with that. Uncle Ben

Jonni Boy: 47:32

would not let him go. Uncle Owen and Aunt Baru, he would never let him go anywhere.

ZaneMan: 47:37

Yeah, I know.

Jonni Boy: 47:37

Always drinking the blue milk. I think the blue milk kept him at home.

ZaneMan: 47:41

It probably was.

Jonni Boy: 47:42

It was like heavy and it kept him at home.

ZaneMan: 47:43

You were spiking him?

P Lantern: 47:44

Yeah, it was full of fluoride.

Jonni Boy: 47:45

Yeah. he's like, Oh man, I'm tired. And he would just stay at home. He wouldn't, you know, forget about going to Tasha's station. That's why he was always, he was always whining.

ZaneMan: 47:53

He was

Jonni Boy: 47:54

b2 emo asking and or where he was and or once be to lie and say he hasn't seen him or know where he is. He is. And he's like, that'll that'll require more, more. what does he say? Circuits. Circuits,

ZaneMan: 48:09

right? That was pretty good before you forgot your line.

P Lantern: 48:14

Uh, one more. Um, Circuits. Yeah, Circuits. That's what it was.

ZaneMan: 48:22

Pretty sure you said power, but you know, circuits works as well.

Jonni Boy: 48:24

I couldn't think of that at the time. Andor goes to his friend who's getting off from work and, and or asks, Brasco to lie for him and then, and say that and ORs with him. Brasco adds to the lie. to accommodate for Andor and ORs. Bruised eye. Yeah. He's a good friend.

ZaneMan: 48:42

He is a good friend. I don't know anyone like that. Yeah.

P Lantern: 48:45

Oh yeah. Me Ether.

ZaneMan: 48:48

That's kind of rude. Patrick. Oh, I mean p I mean black pee.

P Lantern: 48:51

Yeah. Really? That's rude. Huh? That's crazy.

Jonni Boy: 48:54

when we saw the workers and they were getting off work, all their gloves were like hanging up and there was one that was missing and I believe one of the YouTubers said that that was, who, We'll find out later. Mar's might've been Mar's clubs cuz she's no longer working.

ZaneMan: 49:09

That's kind of cool.

Jonni Boy: 49:10

Yeah. Morani won the corporate security headquarters, Deputy Inspector. Surreal Kane. Zane loves this character. This is his favorite character and the entire series is Surreal Card.

ZaneMan: 49:24

Not once have I cared about these.

Jonni Boy: 49:25

He loves. Surreal. Ka.

ZaneMan: 49:27

I do not love,

Jonni Boy: 49:28

loves, loves, loves surreal car.

ZaneMan: 49:31

Don't lie to our listeners.

Jonni Boy: 49:33

Well, surreal. Karin is giving a report to Chief Hine about the and or incident at the beginning of the episode. Chief Hine tells Karin to make up a heroic story, but not the truth and leaves to an Imperial Regional command review. He wants to minimize the time the Empire spends on Meran one. Nothing to say about that your favorite character. Surreal Kane.

ZaneMan: 50:00

I've never liked Kane. Not once, ever

Jonni Boy: 50:02

back on fairs and or walks to see BS at work. And he asked her to contact her secret friend, the one who buys, sell an untraceable NS nine star path unit. A mysterious man is what they call him. And then we flash back to Canary Village kids preparing for a journey. Iran one Deputy Inspector Ka is checking Starship charts with coworker looking for an old thing that, and he was to find it. He wants the guy to find out more information about this old ship.

ZaneMan: 50:35

sometimes I think about Book of Boba found just like they did the flashback so weirdly compared to like what Andor is doing, Andor makes more sense with the flashing back cuz his backstory is like really important when they could have just showed what happened to Boa fed.

Jonni Boy: 50:53

That's true. It does make more sense when they're flashing back, in this story than it did in book of Boa Fed.

ZaneMan: 51:00

Because, Bobba, he looked the exact same. So it could have just been like a before scene and then later they show what got into near the end. But in this show, like you have to know that that's and or that we're looking at not some just random kid that we're trying to learn the story of. Now

Jonni Boy: 51:15

it's true. Bix leaves Tim, her coworker and he follows her, BX loses him and goes into a shop to use the secret communications device on Meran. One. Deputy Inspector Karin issues a bulletin for a canary male, which is a big deal because he's always told people he's from another planet on fairs and or swiping out chip logs on his star. That he used to go to Moran one and then it flashes back to Kaari. The village kids leave with Casa U and or and he leaves his sister in the village. And that's the end of episode one.

ZaneMan: 51:52

Casa means house in Spanish. Oh, that's cool. That's my input for the, for the podcast.

Jonni Boy: 51:58

and or episode two, that would be me casting attempts to lay low on Ferriss as agents of the law. Close in we get another Canary flashback village kids track on the way to, and Casa looks out over the deserted minds that go on forever. There was basically, one of the YouTubers, and I believe it was New Rock Stars, said that this particular scene, they think with the kids wearing all the old or stuff that doesn't fit them, that maybe all the parents died in the mine accident and the kids are still living. Yeah, that's what he speculated

ZaneMan: 52:34

it could be. That's what I imagine happened

Jonni Boy: 52:37

on Ferriss. And this was one of your favorite parts. The belt Toller rings, the evening sounds.

ZaneMan: 52:44

Oh yeah. That guy was pretty cool.

Jonni Boy: 52:46

You, enjoyed him getting out his tools and ringing that. What looked to be like, Bacar.

ZaneMan: 52:52

I mean, it, was cool because his whole job was like to walk up the stairs, pull out his little drumming things and just go boom, boom, boom, boom. That's it. Yep. That's all I had to do.

Jonni Boy: 53:04

BS checks screens at work, she sees a bulletin about and or, and Tim looks at the screen when she leaves. Andor arrives home to Marva. Beres the bulletin. B says B is looking for For Andor.

ZaneMan: 53:22

I mean he really does try that little droid. I What do you think of that Droid?

Jonni Boy: 53:26

I like him. I think he's kind of cool.

ZaneMan: 53:28

I forget like what kind of droid he's supposed to be Cause you know how like the astrom Max, you know, they help with flying and navigation, all that and sometimes they just open the doors. I forget what the cyborg of human relations.

Jonni Boy: 53:43

C three P.

ZaneMan: 53:44

C three P, he's like constantly, you know, translating as that's what he's supposed to do. But like, what is that little guy supposed to do? Is he just like a medical droid or something?

Jonni Boy: 53:54

I just think he's probably just like a house droid. Like he kind of takes care of Marva and the family and you know, cuz he is always checking on Marva. He's always checking on and or, and when Marva will see about this later on. But it was basically following him around and towing certain parts and. I think he does like a numerous amounts of things.

ZaneMan: 54:15

I think it's interesting to see the progression of droids because once I, a while ago, like a couple years ago, I looked up because I was curious about the R two units. Like cuz R two is the, is like the make and then, you know, D two is just like, I don't even know, but you, there's like the R one units, there's R two R threes, R four s, R fives. It's really interesting to see the progression because like some of the square heads, if you go to the Hollywood studios, then you can go into that Troy building place and they had the couple things on the walls.

Jonni Boy: 54:52

Well, did you realize that R two D two got his name from Lines and dialogue and I think American, uh, graffiti. And so George Lucas liked that. So he wrote that down from that movie.

ZaneMan: 55:05

I did not know that, but it's a pretty cool origin story.

Jonni Boy: 55:09

Yeah, I thought so too. And or meets bicks in a bar. The buyer's coming in the morning warning, she says Tim is drinking at the bar and sees them and or leaves, Tim calls the authorities about the bulletin bump, bump bomb.

ZaneMan: 55:25

How dare.

Jonni Boy: 55:26

On Moran one, coworkers of the deputy inspector get the call and they download the image and Karn sees the image on far B stays with Tim.

ZaneMan: 55:37

You know, just real quick, I don't know if I've said this yet, but I really don't like Ka

Jonni Boy: 55:41

I really thought that that was your favorite character. You talk about him all the time.

ZaneMan: 55:45

I talk about how much I hate him all of the time.

Jonni Boy: 55:47

Yeah, we'll, see where his story's going. I don't really know if it's going anywhere, but it's gotta be going somewhere cuz all the other characters are going somewhere.

ZaneMan: 55:54

His story's not interested me once

Jonni Boy: 55:56

He's just taken the real slow road to get there.

ZaneMan: 55:58

Yeah, I guess so.

Jonni Boy: 56:00

Deputy Inspector meets with the Sergeant Mosque and he wants to move on the subject and, or with 12 men on Ferriss on the abandoned ship and, or picks up the piece, the Ns nine star a unit,

ZaneMan: 56:14

The piece of resistance that's from the Lego movie

Jonni Boy: 56:17

Kaari. There's a flashback to there, villagers checking out a down ship. One goes closer to check out, and cover the area. All right. And then on far the secret friend lands on Farrick and he walks to the transport.

ZaneMan: 56:30

Yeah, he's like talking to his ship and he's like, Yo, like, where's like the coolest place to land and ship's like, you know, like 23 billion PA Joon miles.

Jonni Boy: 56:42

He was like, like two miles or something from where he had to get a transport to go in to meet him. But when you're doing undercover stuff, you gotta park on the outskirts man.

ZaneMan: 56:51

Yeah, but he could've just like parked around the corner,

Jonni Boy: 56:54

they always park on the outskirts. Like, you know, OB one did it, qu gone did it. The Millennium Falcon was always parked on the outskirts.

ZaneMan: 57:03

If you just like take a tie fighter and just flight over the place, I'm sure you'll see like tons of ships just on the outskirts, just parked everywhere. And then you, What do you do then? Then you have to like park your own car. I mean park your own tie fighter. Go around, write a ticket for them, place it on their windshield.

Jonni Boy: 57:22

when he was on Morani one, they wanted him to pay fees so at least he didn't have, you know, any fees to pay and or, and b are looking for coms on Canary a flashback, the crash ship has two dead crew. The villager pokes both when she reaches the second, the first wakes up and shoots her. The villagers shoot darts at him. The villagers carry her off and Casa stays.

ZaneMan: 57:49

Yeah. Oh, also just wondering when, who's thinking of it? Um, a good old Pisco, he's not really gonna be a part of this section mostly cuz he doesn't have much to say about he didn't watch and Erso,

Jonni Boy: 58:02

we'll bring him back for. Video game segment. We did not say that. Sorry about that.

ZaneMan: 58:08

Yeah. Sorry. For anyone who is hoping to hear his lovely voice again.

Jonni Boy: 58:12

Andor goes to a friend. he's reading about canary mid rim abandoned after an imperial mind disaster. Everyone died considered toxic. Andor is looking for a ride, a ship in hyperspace with Sergeant Mosque deputy. men are showing them the image of, and or west team, North and east teams is what they break up into. Secret friend on a transport and he brings up an unwanted conversation with another gentleman on the transport. The older guy like brings up a, starts talking to the, our secret friend.

ZaneMan: 58:46

He was nice though. He was, I enjoyed, seeing what he had to say.

Jonni Boy: 58:51

I don't really think, we'll find out as Lutheran. I don't think he'll, he liked it too much.

ZaneMan: 58:54

Yeah, I don't think so.

Jonni Boy: 58:56

And or is seen running through the junk wasteland with some, uh, rock and roll music behind him. And that's where episode two ends.

ZaneMan: 59:05

Episode two ends. Yeah. I thought it just went on forever.

Jonni Boy: 59:09

Oh, you got episode three. Oh. The reckoning Cassie's desperation to avoid arrest leads him to a mysterious man with unknown connect. On Canary again, Casa enters the wreck spaceship and comes across too dead with separatist logos on their uniforms. So we find out they're separatist. Casa sees his reflection and beats the room with his stick weapon.

ZaneMan: 59:36

His stick weapon. You know what that reminds me of? Who? The book of Bova fed.

Jonni Boy: 59:42

Oh yeah. Well he also uses a stick we weapon to shoot darts. They, it's like a blow dart.

ZaneMan: 59:48

Yeah, it kind of is like a blow dart

Jonni Boy: 59:51

barracks, junk wasteland, scrapyard and, or looks for brasco about leaving and getting more money to him and Marva and or tells Brasco that Marvel will have the money. He, says goodbye to Brasco and promises to be back. the transport lands with mysterious man. He goes to walk, with Bicks and she tells him about the bulletin and the whole time he's walking with this stick, like I guess anybody can come up to him and like he's just gonna stick them. Preor ships arrives in orbit on FARs and launches three clone error ships on Canary. And this is when we find out more about Be and Marva be is leading Marva and Clem through the down separatist ship and they hear noise. Arva wants to inspect it and comes across Casa. And B says Republic Bri approaching.

ZaneMan: 1:00:44

I think just the fact that their whole civilization was like so unused to like all those new things like the ships and it, it's really interesting to think about that when thinking of star Wars because you're so numb to that when seeing star Wars it seems so heavily populated.

Jonni Boy: 1:01:01

Yeah. I mean it seems like it's always people on the outskirts too. That's like another thing with star Wars. Like people are always just the, that's their only village or their only people or

ZaneMan: 1:01:10

it makes me feel worse how the empire came to power then and like took over all those treated them.

Jonni Boy: 1:01:16

On FARs, the Preor guards, three ships approach town east with and north team on FARs Roscoe and the coworkers see the preor guards and or waits on the mysterious man on Canary Arva gives casa a sedative and takes him Yes, on far Marva answers the door to see preor guards saying that they have a warrant for and or B shows up to work. Preor guards search and ORs, room guards interrogate be and or contacts B guards get a fix on and ORs location from.

ZaneMan: 1:01:53

I always thought about that. I was like, the com was completely useless. The only thing it did was give him

Jonni Boy: 1:02:00

away. Exactly. He didn't have coms before, but I guess he must have done it for B.

ZaneMan: 1:02:05

He he cares about B, but no, he just gives himself away.

Jonni Boy: 1:02:10

Mysterious man shows up to and ORs location. Captions. Give him the name. Lutheran. Lutheran B's friend tells, her a bunch of corporals are looking for Andor. Bick says Someone ratted. and he'll she'll find out. Tim stops her and Bicks finds out that Tim turned and or in bu bu

ZaneMan: 1:02:33

What'd you say B? No.

Jonni Boy: 1:02:35

Uh, Tim.

ZaneMan: 1:02:36

Not Tim. Tim. Drake two s. Tim Drake?

Jonni Boy: 1:02:40

No, not the Robin. Oh, just her buddy. And or shows Luther the Ns Star path unit. Luther wants to know how he got it and, and or says you walk in like you belong. So proud. They don't even come or they don't even care. Lutheran calls him by name and or pulls his blaster and ask who Lutheran is. He wants and or to come with him.

ZaneMan: 1:03:06

He wants to join the rebell.

Jonni Boy: 1:03:08

And something else that you see in this episode is the weapon that he's use using is actually, Mar's husband's blaster.

ZaneMan: 1:03:15

That's pretty cool how they have that little continuity.

Jonni Boy: 1:03:18

And he also will find out later about the use of Clem.

ZaneMan: 1:03:23

Oh yeah.

Jonni Boy: 1:03:23

Cause that's what I guess his dad or his stepdad or whatever he called him was.

ZaneMan: 1:03:27

Yeah, I forgot about that.

Jonni Boy: 1:03:28

Townspeople, clanging metal is a signal to others that the shops are closed, and also that the Premo security are there. Lutheran Destroys and ORs com. The cor pros arrive at the door, B runs through town right into the Corpo. Lutheran blows the doors and there's a firefight that ensues.

ZaneMan: 1:03:48

And he says always have an escape plan or whatever.

Jonni Boy: 1:03:50

Yeah. He had put some, bombs around the door. Bombs on the door.

ZaneMan: 1:03:53

And Cass's like, When did you have time to put those there?

Jonni Boy: 1:03:56

He went to the door. Four guards, handcuffed bits to a wall. Tim shows up and the guards kill him. I guess that's his just desserts turning into Andor.

ZaneMan: 1:04:05

I guess. So.

Jonni Boy: 1:04:07

Corporals find out two of them are heading your way into town. They split up, they take positions. Deputy inspector is found by Andor. You probably like this part cuz this is your guy calling.

ZaneMan: 1:04:20

I don't know how many times I tell you I do not like car

Jonni Boy: 1:04:22

and drops weapon and calm. Ask how many there are. He says 14 a dozen men, two officers corporal's ship in the junkyard takes off and Rex thanks to Brasco. You don't see him do it, but you kind of are. It's implied that he does it.

ZaneMan: 1:04:38

Yeah. You're just like, Yeah, he probably did it.

Jonni Boy: 1:04:41

Yeah, he got it. He, he probably did that. He was basically tied down to a chain or something and then the ship couldn't go anywhere and crashed. A speeder goes fast through town. Corporal's shoot at it and or, and Luther escape on speeder bike and blow up the speeder with the three s around it in the middle of town.

ZaneMan: 1:04:59

And there's like, I wonder if they're okay, let's go get'em. And then they're just like, Oh, double do.

Jonni Boy: 1:05:04

Yeah, they, went one way but then they went the other way. B'S friend comes to free her on Canary Marva and Clem Escape with Casa off the same abandoned ship that Andor has been staying at and Andor and Lutheran escape on his ship. And that's the end of episode three.

ZaneMan: 1:05:25

That's the end of episode three.

Jonni Boy: 1:05:27

So we're away from, Felix. Now for the most part we kind of will go back a little bit, but episodes four, five and six take place on Aldon and that's the name of episode four. And also course, Orant out of options Casting is recruited for a dangerous mission to infiltrate an imperial garrison on Lutheran's, Fondo Hall Craft. They're leaving fairs jumping into hyperspace to l Donny and, or ask what's Eldon Lutheran, responds Either I drop you somewhere or you help with something important. I came for you. And, or says, What's the offer? He says, Five days. Big stakes, big danger prep team. Good plan. And or will be paid$200,000.

ZaneMan: 1:06:16

You'll be paid dollars.

Jonni Boy: 1:06:18

Well, not Doc credits.

ZaneMan: 1:06:20

Imperial credits.

Jonni Boy: 1:06:21

Yes. or it could be Republic

ZaneMan: 1:06:23

Republic credits.

Jonni Boy: 1:06:24

Yeah, they had Republic credits at this time. Cuz it wasn't the Empire yet. Well, I mean, well it was the Empire, so maybe it was empire. The start of the Empire and or says what will be stealing. Lutheran says quarterly payroll for an entire imperial sector on coron the capital of the galaxy. we see Imperial Security Bureau introduce, us to Deidra Mero, Major Partita guys and the rest of the isb.

ZaneMan: 1:06:50

You know who they're better at then? Inspector

Jonni Boy: 1:06:54

Kan. This story is a lot better than Inspector Kane's story In a briefing, Blevin is answering about the incident on fer. On O Don Lutheran and Andor Lan, and they're we're introduced to Bertha Lutheran asked Andor to change his name, East Clem for the next few days. Yeah. And he got Clem from,

ZaneMan: 1:07:18

from what? Dad?

Jonni Boy: 1:07:18

His dad or his stepdad?

ZaneMan: 1:07:21

His adoptive dad.

Jonni Boy: 1:07:22

Adoptive dad. Yeah. Lutheran gives Andor a blue keber sky stone as a down payment against the$200,000. Lutheran talks to Vel about Andor Clem to convince him to take him on her team.

ZaneMan: 1:07:37

And, and she's like, I don't want, that guy.

Jonni Boy: 1:07:39

Yeah. She's not happy about it.

ZaneMan: 1:07:41

She's like a couple days before the mission

Jonni Boy: 1:07:43

and he said that she wasn't gonna be happy about it.

ZaneMan: 1:07:47

Yeah. He said, either you take him or you don't go hold.

Jonni Boy: 1:07:50

So she, How does it take him? Me, Ronnie won corporate security headquarters. Blevin is relieving H ka and Mosque of duty. Ronnie's system is under permanent imperial authority because of the fiasco on the Corro on far then messed up now a Ron.

ZaneMan: 1:08:09

Wow. Another reference

Jonni Boy: 1:08:11

on Aldon, ve and Andor have a walk through the night and or, ask who Lutheran is. Ve said You should have asked him when you had the chance. Veil says, We never mentioned Lutheran. It's veil's idea for Clem to join us. Facts.

ZaneMan: 1:08:27

It is her idea.

Jonni Boy: 1:08:28

And now there's seven. She says,

ZaneMan: 1:08:30

Only seven

Jonni Boy: 1:08:32

Vel tells them that they are robbing the armory at the Aldon Garrison. We're back at the Imperial Security Bureau. Deidra is reading about FARs one local four premo guards looking, that have died. Looking for the NS nine star path unit. Has to be the box from Steer guard. Deidra wants everything from Ferriss, from Blevin on Corson. Lutheran comes into Corson, opens a hidden compartment to pull out a wig, jewelry and clothes on. Kind of a weird little scene. He puts his wig on and does his, like

ZaneMan: 1:09:09

his a little smile,

Jonni Boy: 1:09:10

make you fakey smile. He puts on his rings and he's all like waving his hair. And I guess he's getting into the mode of, we'll find out. He's selling stuff. Runs his shop. Yeah. On o. We're here for centuries, and Empire was been there for a decade to clear them out and they basically drove them South is what we find out

ZaneMan: 1:09:32

because they're mean heads. Sorry for my language.

Jonni Boy: 1:09:36

Isb Deidra talks to Blevin about the files from fairs. Deidra wants to access them. Blevin doesn't want to give them to her. And then we go back to o Donnie, where we meet Ric Skiing. Tamarin and Cynthia. Part of Bell's crew.

ZaneMan: 1:09:53

Yeah. But you might be wondering, Hey, that's only six by my count.

Jonni Boy: 1:09:59

Vel introduces Clem.

ZaneMan: 1:10:01

Clem.

Jonni Boy: 1:10:02

That's seven. It is. I think so. Corson Kan arrives home to his mom. Edie, it's your favorite ca car.

ZaneMan: 1:10:10

My favorite car, Car.

Jonni Boy: 1:10:11

Car. Aldon, Senta cleans, Clems. Blaster, burn and tear and skiing. Ask about Clem Tove.

ZaneMan: 1:10:19

What did you think about those characters?

Jonni Boy: 1:10:21

I thought they were okay. We, talked about this, a little bit because we're not seeing any, what do you call it? aliens

ZaneMan: 1:10:29

that bothered me so much, especially when we were on, that first place. Barracks. Barracks. Especially when we're on fairs, because that looks like such a port that would be like populated to a lot of people.

Jonni Boy: 1:10:40

There was a few, There just wasn't. as many as there, usually is, but none on this planet and none are part of this seven at all. All right on Corson, Mon Montha with a new driver. She goes to Lutheran and Kayla's shop. she wants to get a history gift for her husband. Lutheran shows her pieces talking about moving around money spies everywhere they need funding. she'd be the first one to fall and she gives her a piece to take on loan and then Mon leave. So when they're talking about all that stuff, they kind of go behind the desk

ZaneMan: 1:11:16

and they start talking about rebellion.

Jonni Boy: 1:11:18

Yeah. Rebellion type stuff. And then her driver's out front and his wife clean ya is, taking care of him. So kind of keeps him distracted. Yeah. On Eldon Lieutenant Go shows up on a speeder bike from the Garrison Veil. Introduces everyone to gon on Coron. Mon arrives home to Husband Par and he's setting up for a dinner on Eldon. Vel and Crew Show Clem a model of the Garris. Every three years there's a celestial event called the Eye of Eldon. it's a meteor shower three days time. They have when they're robbing the armory at the garrison.

ZaneMan: 1:11:56

Yeah. So you only's got three days to repair.

Jonni Boy: 1:11:59

Get on, get up on it. ISB on Deidra and Blevin. Talked to major part to guys about the incident on Ferriss. Deidra thinks the NS nine star path unit is part of an ongoing effort to steal imperial equipment or an organized rebellion. She's got or three case files suggesting a pattern and the major doesn't agree.

ZaneMan: 1:12:21

Yeah. He's like, um, I don't know.

Jonni Boy: 1:12:23

Go back to the drawing board on that. And then Al Donny, the crew is eating around the fire veil, warns Clem to learn all the specs or the robbery overnight. And that's where episode four ends,

ZaneMan: 1:12:37

only episode four.

Jonni Boy: 1:12:39

Yes. We're on episode five. The acts forgets. Now this episode, everything is sped up to about probably what if we were on five? It goes to seven and if we were on seven, it goes to nine.

ZaneMan: 1:12:52

I have no clue.

Jonni Boy: 1:12:53

it's when they basically, Oh no, that's the next episode.

ZaneMan: 1:12:57

Wow. Spoilers.

Jonni Boy: 1:12:58

I know. So this leads up to the ActX forgets. Cassie must carefully navigate the distrust inherited in being the new member of a secret organization on Coron, Kan Awakes and has breakfast with his mother. She wants to know if Kan has any prospects.

ZaneMan: 1:13:13

Probably not.

Jonni Boy: 1:13:14

And we don't really care. Zane doesn't, especially,

ZaneMan: 1:13:16

I don't like him. I don't have any interest in his character.

Jonni Boy: 1:13:20

Now Donny and or Wakes to see his stuff missing. Skiing is washing off and we see and or stuff on display skiing says and or doesn't have much and left in a hurry. And then we see some of his tattoos on skiing. And there's one that says by the hand, So that brings in the emperor's hands, which he could have been one. And if that's the case, then Mar Jade is out there somewhere.

ZaneMan: 1:13:47

Could be Mar Jade. And you know, if you've been listening to More Than This Justice episode of the podcast, and you would know that that's what my sister's named after.

Jonni Boy: 1:13:57

Yes. Mara. Oh, we spell it different.

ZaneMan: 1:13:59

Yeah, it is spelled different.

Jonni Boy: 1:14:00

So the M a r A, it's m a u R A, Coron Man's Plan Change with her daughter Lida. looks like she's really upset about it too, because she's probably got some nefarious things going on.

ZaneMan: 1:14:12

Probably

Jonni Boy: 1:14:14

on Eldon. Skiing and Andor. Talk about Nimic Manifesto. Andor Veil and Tamon discussed getting ship off the runway. Andor says, What were you gonna do if I wasn't here? Because

ZaneMan: 1:14:27

probably Fail.

Jonni Boy: 1:14:28

Andor says he's the one flying it because they didn't even know about how to weigh it, how to put the weight in it, all that kind of stuff. Yeah. It's like, what have we done if I wasn't here on Ferriss Blevin overseas cleanup and meets, Captain Tigo and he says, Have a hotel and you can, act as the Captain's headquarters for you on l Donny Timmer has Clem Ski Nier and him marching. then Tys come through the valley and they have to cover the guns. Ty's coming like real low in one tie.

ZaneMan: 1:14:59

they almost hits them at one point.

Jonni Boy: 1:15:01

Yeah. Go checks in on, the men Bell's group gets equipment and uniforms ready.

ZaneMan: 1:15:08

Well, he checks in on not just the mint. But the women and the children too.

Jonni Boy: 1:15:14

Well, there's not that many there, but Yeah. But they don't show him at that point. Checking on any women and children. Just the men.

ZaneMan: 1:15:20

But it's not just the men dead, it's the women and the children too.

Jonni Boy: 1:15:27

Just the men. ISB coworker convinces, her to see onto something. Isb Deidra's coworker convinces her that she's onto something. This would be how she would, do it if she says she'd spread it out.

ZaneMan: 1:15:40

Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 1:15:41

Talking about the rebellion. She's a pretty smart one. That's Deidra.

ZaneMan: 1:15:44

Yeah, she's, kind of on top of it.

Jonni Boy: 1:15:46

Aldon Veil and the group leave camp on Coron car and his mom. Talk about Uncle Harlow and a job. Zane cares about that.

ZaneMan: 1:15:54

I do. Not I don't I don't care about it at all.

Jonni Boy: 1:15:58

Aldon Veil tests. Clem Clem asked about gon uh, fell in love with a local woman. Lost that woman. Lieutenant go checks in on his men about re a reduced schedule veil in the group. Camp skiing, puts a knife to Clem and takes his kaber. Clem puts his hand on his blaster. So does Tamarin says, Well, talk when we're safe. Clem tells the group he's being paid Bump bubo.

ZaneMan: 1:16:28

We already knew this.

Jonni Boy: 1:16:30

We did, but the audience did

ZaneMan: 1:16:32

well. The audience did well. The, the people that the people in the showed,

Jonni Boy: 1:16:35

Yeah, I didn't know. Coron, Mon and parent and the car talk. Or a new charitable foundation. Probably a front for the rebellion,

ZaneMan: 1:16:43

definitely up front for the rebellion

Jonni Boy: 1:16:46

on Aldon Vi's group arrives overlooking the garrison. Clem tells Neic. It's looks just like his model,

ZaneMan: 1:16:53

just like his model. He, and he's just like, Yeah, I've been, I'm pretty cool.

Jonni Boy: 1:16:59

Yeah. He's like, I don't mean to brag or anything, but I've been here for a good while looking at this stupid thing.

ZaneMan: 1:17:04

Yeah, it's basically what he says.

Jonni Boy: 1:17:06

Lieutenant go. Looks for veil's. fire signal. They says skiing.

ZaneMan: 1:17:12

Who?

Jonni Boy: 1:17:13

I don't know what that says right there. Skiing tells Clem about his farmer brother and the empire killed him.

ZaneMan: 1:17:19

Empire,

Jonni Boy: 1:17:20

Yeah. Empire. Skiing Tells Clem about his farmer brother and how the empire killed him. Skiing tells Clem to accept his apology. Bell says Tamarin is in charge. And then Veil and Cynthia leave back on. Corson Lutheran listens to a hidden radio clean, says nothing's coming through tonight. Lutheran is worried and asked clean ya about, her to go pack on his ship. Leashes only veil traces. Lutheran says no and, or he wasn't careful. Clean ya. It will be all over this time Tomorrow she says Lutheran or it will just be starting bump, bump bum.

ZaneMan: 1:18:03

He wasn't careful at all.

Jonni Boy: 1:18:04

So that's the end of episode five. Episode five.

ZaneMan: 1:18:08

But that means there's only one more to go.

Jonni Boy: 1:18:10

Well we have 12 episodes but we're only doing six today.

ZaneMan: 1:18:14

Well, where are we gonna find the rest of them if we wanted to watch it at home?

Jonni Boy: 1:18:18

Well, you can find them on Disney Plus and or episode six called the I with cover from a spectacular local festival. The Alani mission reaches a point of no return on Eldon Neme and Andor. Talk about the rebellion base. Commander J Hold is talking to a man from Corson, Colonel Ol about the Donnie's and their 10 day track to the i Celestial spectacle.

ZaneMan: 1:18:46

Celestial spectacle.

Jonni Boy: 1:18:48

Yes. Try saying that seven times fast.

ZaneMan: 1:18:50

You just say a different number every time.

Jonni Boy: 1:18:53

Seven times fast is what you always say. What? No, it's five times fast. Oh, well whatever.

ZaneMan: 1:18:58

Who says seven? And why'd you say three earlier?

Jonni Boy: 1:19:00

I don't know. Seven, three. It's all prime numbers. Lieutenant sent, the best men to the perimeters of course. Cause he doesn't want any of the good men at the Gar. When they attack, I guess because he's part of the rebellion. Tamar uses the radio Echo one to valley one Veil Andn Valley. One is in position. Echo one neic and or skiing and Tamarin move from Camp Tamarin was a storm Trooper, we find out. Yeah,

ZaneMan: 1:19:30

he was a storm trooper.

Jonni Boy: 1:19:31

He was a storm trooper From what, skiing says. But I don't know if we can trust skiing.

ZaneMan: 1:19:36

No one can trust skiing.

Jonni Boy: 1:19:38

Echo one, get into place along the road to Aldon Echo. One march up to the garrison with the aldons roe Umba. The, an art and J holder are getting dressed for the celestial event robotic. And they are basically the imperials that's J hold who's the commandant and his family lieutenant greets the aldons and they move to the worship place. Lieutenant leaves three squads and has echo one squad, which people don't know that they're echo one returned to the garrison with him. Valley one swim in under the Garrison Commandant J Hold meet with the aldons to present a goat hide Valley. One says it's a go to echo one, they jump to the bottom entrance. Echo one. Enter the secure gate with J. Hold robotic. Lieutenant doesn't enter, but they do enter with Colonel Petar as well.

ZaneMan: 1:20:35

They're gonna get him.

Jonni Boy: 1:20:37

They're gonna get him,

ZaneMan: 1:20:38

you know, it's inevitable. They're gonna get him.

Jonni Boy: 1:20:39

Colonel Petar pulls his weapon on Neme, and then Sinta shows up and shoots him on the way in with veil. In p imperial coms go down thanks to Veil and Sinta and or, and to Marin. Take Commandant. Jyn hold to the command center and they take over for guards. Veil sent skiing and Ric pull and Len, they're taken to the command center. Sent is left in charge of the command center. The other take j hold to the vault. The group take over The guards at the vault skiing instructs the guards that they are going to load them out with payroll records from the vault. The com tower picks up the group's coms and goes with the squad to the vault. Then the eye starts. Lieutenant Gorge shows up, Alani our air command tie fighters. the com office and squad show up. Lieutenant Go says It's a classified mission. J hold passes out and a ensues a fire fight. Three ties are launch transport launches, but they hurt Nimic Veil gives Nimic a med spike. Then the ties pursue the transport Nimic gives and or the flight plan climb then dive, the ties crack up. One of them does. Another one is hit by debris and slams into the third. These poor tie fighters can never get their targets.

ZaneMan: 1:22:10

I feel like if you or tie fighter guys, if you were gonna choose a job in the empire, choosing a pilot would be the worst cuz you're constantly getting shot down.

Jonni Boy: 1:22:19

It's just, it's sad. Transport leaves the planet. And you know, the last words that K2 SSO said to, Cassian in, Rogue, One was Climb, climb, climb. And those are the last words of Neme. Yeah. Skiing and veil. Want to take him to, take neme to the doctor. A form arm doctor operates on neme with veil assisting skiing temps and or, and, or shoots skiing. Nimic dies and or confronts veil and doctor, and or tells veil about skiing and or gives veil the sky fiber. she gives and orem it's manifesto on Corson. The ISB is on. Is presenting to the Senate, Lutheran and Kenya's shop. A customer asked about Alani. There's been a big rebel attack, and Lutheran goes in the back and says he might have something from Alani and just starts laughing. that's the end of episode six.

ZaneMan: 1:23:22

That's theme of episode six. So I think it's time that we might get into the game and invite one of our old friends from the beginning of the podcast back in.

Jonni Boy: 1:23:33

Let's do it.

Daddylacus: 1:23:35

We're

P Lantern: 1:23:43

Hello. There he is. I'm back guys. I didn't watch this too, so I wasn't gonna talk about it.

ZaneMan: 1:23:49

before we get into it, I think, good old Jonni Boy. I think you had one more nickname to call him. Good old peace. Nasty over here. What, what are you gonna call him?

Jonni Boy: 1:23:59

I think we decided on a name for him. Did you? Yeah, I think we, we'll, we'll cushion him the name. All right. Go ahead. We'll call him P man.

ZaneMan: 1:24:08

P man.

P Lantern: 1:24:09

P man p I mean, Zane is, ZaneMan. So I vote for pe lantern.

ZaneMan: 1:24:17

I like P Lantern.

Jonni Boy: 1:24:19

Or we could do, we talked about man.

P Lantern: 1:24:22

Oh yeah, man. Pat.

ZaneMan: 1:24:23

Pat, Man. Pat's pretty good too.

P Lantern: 1:24:25

Like man bat from Batman.

Jonni Boy: 1:24:27

Yeah. So you could be the opposite of Zane.

ZaneMan: 1:24:29

That's true. We are kind of opposites.

Jonni Boy: 1:24:31

So, Man, Pat,

ZaneMan: 1:24:32

completely different. I'm funny and good looking and handsome and,

P Lantern: 1:24:36

and Zane's a Ginger. So,

Jonni Boy: 1:24:38

So you like P Lan or you

P Lantern: 1:24:40

like Lantern?

Jonni Boy: 1:24:41

P Lantern.

ZaneMan: 1:24:43

Yeah, He lantern.

Jonni Boy: 1:24:43

You don't like man, Pat.

ZaneMan: 1:24:45

I think I like black P

P Lantern: 1:24:47

No comment on that one. I don't think we should use that one for the sake of a monetization. I don't think we should use that one.

ZaneMan: 1:24:53

All right,

Jonni Boy: 1:24:54

so we went back into the vault, because we're waiting on a video game. Well they've, played it now, but, uh, we're gonna talk about that on at next episode. So we're going back in the archives to Batman, Aham City. Yep. You did

ZaneMan: 1:25:06

it right? I was worried. I didn't hear you ever ask me about it. It's like you did last time. So I got worried that you were gonna the wrong one.

P Lantern: 1:25:12

I was entirely expecting him to save the wrong one,

Jonni Boy: 1:25:15

you know, sometimes I'm on it, man.

ZaneMan: 1:25:17

I mean some, I guess

P Lantern: 1:25:19

rarely.

Jonni Boy: 1:25:20

So, you know, we talked about Aham Asylum last time.

ZaneMan: 1:25:26

Yeah. Yes. Good job.

P Lantern: 1:25:27

Nice.

Jonni Boy: 1:25:28

And so this time we're talking about Aham City and I mean, any game that you could play as the Batman, I think, or is a great game.

P Lantern: 1:25:34

That's very true,

Jonni Boy: 1:25:35

except for how is this game better than the last.

ZaneMan: 1:25:38

so this game, I think it was the comments that was a little more polished. it was a lot nicer to go around the city. In this one

P Lantern: 1:25:47

it was a lot more open and like, so a asylum obviously is the asylum.

ZaneMan: 1:25:54

It was limited to the a like not just a building, but you could go around Aham asylum and not go out of it.

P Lantern: 1:26:01

Right. And that was not very open.

ZaneMan: 1:26:04

And in fact, in Aham Asylum, the Gotham City was a part of the sky box. You couldn't actually go to it, but you could see like Wayne Tower from

Jonni Boy: 1:26:16

Yeah, there was some, like, you had to get the controller just right to look over to get some kind of achieve red trophy. Yeah. Looking over the city,

P Lantern: 1:26:26

it was a thing for Wayne Tower and it would be like, it said something about the fact that it was Wayne Tower.

ZaneMan: 1:26:31

It was like Wayne watches over the city or something,

P Lantern: 1:26:34

something silly like that.

Jonni Boy: 1:26:35

Something ch cheesy. But this game you can go all over the city, which it was good. However, when you're just on Arch Asylum, you're going to a few buildings. I think they should still limited it to a, you know, just a few buildings. I don't know how you guys feel about, but I, just felt it was, it was too much, too fast.

P Lantern: 1:26:56

I. That the way they started it was good. But as you got into the open world and you got into the rest of the opportunity to like go around the city and fight crime, and then you had to go from place to place to place to place, I think they could have done that better. But as far as how much space you had to work with, I think that was good. I think they did that well because it gave so much opportunity to explore and so much opportunity or a well polished and well developed game.

ZaneMan: 1:27:28

I very much agree. but before we get into anything more about the game itself, I would like to talk about the story of the game.

Jonni Boy: 1:27:34

Well, one thing before you do the story part, I just want to add this little tidbit. Go ahead. with the, world being, you know, more expanse, it was basically had to go back and forth a lot Yeah. To get to certain places and there was no easy way to get from one side to the other. So if you were on one side, you had to get way back over to the other side to do something way back on the other side, to do the other thing. And so if they would've kept your task, like kind of Yeah. General area, and you did those and then you moved on, it would've been better because back and forth, or just make it an easy way to get back. So now you talk about the story.

ZaneMan: 1:28:09

Well, I'm not gonna get that much into the story, Just a little bit about it. so it starts off with, Batman sitting in a chair and this guy comes up on the screen, I don't remember his name, and then you like have to rock outta the chair and you have to take out one guy or whatever.

P Lantern: 1:28:24

You rock and you rock and then rock, rock, rock back and forth. And then you fall on your side and you're like, Oh.

ZaneMan: 1:28:29

And in that part of the game, if you like, mess up one of the rocking points, you had to like basically start over.

P Lantern: 1:28:34

Yeah. You lose your momentum and then you like fall outta the chair and you come out and you're like, Oh, that man.

ZaneMan: 1:28:42

But you're not, cuz it's Bruce Wayne.

P Lantern: 1:28:44

Yeah. It's just Bruce Wayne.

ZaneMan: 1:28:46

I don't know who the Batman is.

P Lantern: 1:28:47

It's just Bruce man.

ZaneMan: 1:28:48

It's just brs man. Bat woman man. Wayne. Yeah.

Jonni Boy: 1:28:53

Cat girl.

ZaneMan: 1:28:54

Cat girl. That's what it is. So you walk out, you're in prison, everyone just like, Man, we hate you. So like die.

P Lantern: 1:29:03

Yeah. You're like some rich scoundrel and they're all up on the fences and they're like, Oh, when you get in here, we're going to eat you alive. We're gonna eat you a little booty.

ZaneMan: 1:29:12

And then one guy behind him was just like, Yeah, stay away from me. I don't like you. And then these guys try to fight him and Bruce Waynes just like, get behind me. He's like, No, I'm running for my life. And then he immediately gets killed.

P Lantern: 1:29:22

Yeah. And then, Bruce is like, Well that's on you. I mean, I'm not my fault.

ZaneMan: 1:29:26

Sounds like kind of a you problem.

P Lantern: 1:29:28

Yeah. And then Bruce proceeds to, you know, do what Bruce does best. Nothing.

ZaneMan: 1:29:33

Yeah, exactly. he like walks past and I think you see the penguin, and he has like a bottle on his eye. It's like covering his eye, right?

P Lantern: 1:29:42

it's like a makeshift, monocle, but it's not a bottle.

ZaneMan: 1:29:45

I'm pretty sure it's the bottom of a bottle.

P Lantern: 1:29:47

It's the bottom of a bottle, but it's not like an entire bottle. He doesn't have like some Pepsi bottle on side eyeball. Right.

ZaneMan: 1:29:52

Whatever. Do you beat him up? I mean, he actually runs away, but you can beat him up before he runs away.

P Lantern: 1:29:58

Yeah. You have to be quick. And then that's when you're learning the combats. You don't have everything unlocked, but the combat in, Arkham City is really the best aspect of the game. Like it's simple to an extent. There are certain parts that are like hard to understand, but those parts are short lived. They're like certain enemies that, you know, you have to learn how to fight. Yeah. But other than those enemies, it's really just like you beat one guy up and then boom, there's another guy and then boom, there's a counter. You flip over that guy. It's a lot of cool movement, but it's not super complicated.

ZaneMan: 1:30:33

Yeah. and then a couple of things happen and. Before you know it, you're, you realize that someone just like shot through a window and you're like, Oh, it came from that building. And then it's like, oh, it's Joker. and then Joker does what he does and he, he tricks you, cuz somehow he tricks out the world's greatest detective.

P Lantern: 1:30:51

I mean, obviously Joker is so smart.

ZaneMan: 1:30:55

and like Joker infects him with this toxin that's like joker's, infected blood. and so the whole game is about you trying to find this serum that helps you and you have to like go through Mr. Freeze and

P Lantern: 1:31:08

Raj Ul.

ZaneMan: 1:31:09

Raj Ul I'm just gonna skip to the end of the game cuz not much happened. Other than that,

P Lantern: 1:31:14

I mean, not a whole lot of serious development. I mean, at the very start of the game, like after you eat the Penguin, you quickly get scooted along. You meet Harvey Dent, have a little thing with him. That's when the shots happened.

ZaneMan: 1:31:31

Cat was there too.

P Lantern: 1:31:32

It's in the courtroom. and you can also play his catwoman in this game. Certain points.

ZaneMan: 1:31:36

Yeah. we, getting around the city is horrible. Yeah, it's really bad.

P Lantern: 1:31:39

Later, on you come into this big building, it's like a church or, like a library or something. And then Arley Quinn in there, you throw up against a wall and that's it. That's the whole thing that she's in the game for. She's just there to, get smacked one time and it's over. And then you get to the end where you're like, fighting Joker and he's dying. And then he, you know, Batman saves himself with the serum to fix Joker's thing, and then he goes to save Joker. And Joker was like, smacks it outta his hands and was like, basically like

ZaneMan: 1:32:10

he runs up and he tries to lap it off the floor like a dog.

P Lantern: 1:32:13

And then that man was like, you know, after all this, I was still gonna save you. Like, that's what's, that's, that's funny. It's the biggest joke of it all. And then Joker was like, you know, Yeah. It's pretty, Actually that's pretty funny.

ZaneMan: 1:32:26

You know, when I, when I think about it, that is kind of funny.

P Lantern: 1:32:30

I mean, it's a little comedic and then he coughs and coughs and then he's dead. the place you were at the beginning of the game and that kind of consists to the rest of the game, was Dr. Hugo Strange? Dr. Hugo Strange is a sounds familiar psychiatrist in the Gotham series. And he's bald and he has glasses.

ZaneMan: 1:32:54

He does have glasses

P Lantern: 1:32:55

and a beard.

ZaneMan: 1:32:56

I don't remember a beard.

P Lantern: 1:32:58

He wasn't bald faced. He had, he had no hair on the top of his head and he had a beard and glasses.

ZaneMan: 1:33:04

The interesting thing about this game that kind of relates to us just talking about Star Wars is that this joker was actually voiced by Mark Hamill. Yeah. I don't remember who plays Harley Quinn.

P Lantern: 1:33:17

It was very short anyways. I mean, the only Harley Quinn stuff that was in there, other than that was her being on the tv. And it's just her talking. There was no, like, her being in the game.

ZaneMan: 1:33:29

Oh wait, that was Tara Strong too. So those are like, in my opinion, I think those are very, good voice actors for both of those characters. because I really like Mark Hamill's Joker. I think he does a very good job with it, especially his laugh. Yeah. Tara's strong. She is like great at voice acting in general. She does tons of voices.

P Lantern: 1:33:49

Yeah. Tara does really good. alright, so let's get into like, the game, part of the game. Like, not the story, but like how the game is played. Yeah. Like aspects of the game. Pro cons, otherwise,

ZaneMan: 1:34:03

Well, the whole part about getting around the city, it's an interesting concept. I just don't think it was, I don't think it was done the best way.

P Lantern: 1:34:11

so they didn't really have any real way to travel quickly. Yeah. Like those games have fast travel points, and I don't think this game had any. And if they did, it wasn't very accessible. And then, without fast travel, there was a lot of places you couldn't get in and, you know, it was just annoying and there were dead ends and there weren't a lot of easy ways to get out of stuff. Like, there was a certain part that, you know, when my dumb self as a kid was playing on my PS three, I was going through the city. I was, near the, prison Black eight prison I think it was. Yeah. With, Hugo String to running the whole thing. And I was needing to do something inside the prison, but there was a specific way to enter it and I couldn't enter it, because my game file was corrupted and I had to reset all my progress. Yeah.

ZaneMan: 1:35:08

overall I think I would probably prefer Ark and asylum. Whether that be nostalgia or something of the sort. I, think that chime of like the medical chime, every time that someone would come in over the over speakers and Ark Asylum was very rememberable and it's, and it's a nice time too. in this game. I don't really remember anything that stands out at any point.

P Lantern: 1:35:30

The thing that I remember the most about this game were two very distinct sounds. The sound of finishing someone like the punch.

ZaneMan: 1:35:40

I remember that too.

P Lantern: 1:35:41

Like p like echoed.

ZaneMan: 1:35:45

Yeah, that's, And then the bats too.

P Lantern: 1:35:47

I was, I say, and then the bats. And that came off of every like, unc, unconscious person. Yeah. I say it in quotes because, the absolute devious combat in that game was maniacal.

ZaneMan: 1:36:02

No way. Like he's saving all of these people.

P Lantern: 1:36:05

There was no way that those people were just unconscious. He was exploding them with explosive gel. He was throwing like razor sharp batter rings at them. he was blowing them up. He was throwing them off roofs, hanging them by their ankles. There was no way that they, all of them survived then.

ZaneMan: 1:36:27

I feel like, you know, Even that, having that, I'm pretty sure I remember that more from Aham Asylum too. Just the sound of the finisher. I feel like I remember that one over this one.

P Lantern: 1:36:39

No, I remember, I mean, I think I played Aham City more than I played AUM Asylum, to be fair.

ZaneMan: 1:36:47

So the A weren't really where my childhood, I just remember that at one point I saw that my dad had the game cases and it said they were rated in for mature. And I was like, Hey dad, could I play this? Or it was rated T for teen. I think I was like 12 at the time.

P Lantern: 1:37:03

No, it was m for mature,

ZaneMan: 1:37:05

whatever. I feel like even my dad didn't have it, but I feel like even ACA Knight, I remember just seeing a joker pop up places and just talking to you because he was like, in your mind. Yeah. but like this one, I feel like I remember that the city was like really annoying, especially as Catwoman. the story was less memorable than the other two.

P Lantern: 1:37:32

I've, I have a couple things to say about, you know, AUM City. Go ahead, boss. one of the things I wanted to say was, the graphics, you know, a lot of people can hate on it. The time in the era that this game was in. There are a lot of graphics that still don't top that. Like, sure, you look at the people and it was like, whew. Oh, they do not look good. But if you look at the, like, surroundings, you know, it, it felt very ambient. the ambience was well made. The sounds were well made. the lighting was good. It was always dark, it was always mucky. It was gross like the city was meant to be. I agree. one specific thing that isn't necessarily gameplay, but whenever you got knocked out, which depending on how good you were, could be more frequent than other times. you would have a little cut scene with whoever like knocked you out

ZaneMan: 1:38:23

and do you remember that? That was good.

P Lantern: 1:38:25

Yeah. And if it was their goons that knocked you out, they would still come talk to you. Like, so if Penguin's goons beat you, then Penguin would come talk to you. If Joker's goons would beat you, Joker would come say something to you. If Harley would beat you or Harley's goons would beat you, she would come talk to you. And it was like, you know, Mr. Freeze was the same. And it was, really interesting. Cause they all had different quips.

ZaneMan: 1:38:49

I think it was funny because sometimes they would be like, Man, I, really expected more of you from this.

P Lantern: 1:38:54

I remember Harley Den would like flip a coin and catch it and be like, you know, you kind of suck. Yeah. Like I, I knew I was gonna kill you one day, but dang, you're kind of an L dude.

ZaneMan: 1:39:07

I feel like we could have gotten on for a long time, but you just kind of an L bro.

P Lantern: 1:39:10

there wasn't a lot of like bat cave stuff or anything like that in this and a lot of the abilities weren't all too special or specific to remember. You would like unlock a new ability and then you wouldn't even use it. cuz you were so focused on the main combat and there were no like health bars, for anyone but the big bosses, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And you know, it was an interesting game though. It was very fun. but I do agree with ZaneMan on the aspect of the city. The city was very hard to work around. It was very annoying. It was, painful. They constantly go from place to place to place. that was really frustrating. And then find all the rid trophies, was rough cuz they were small little trophies and you know, you could see it with your, like your ar detective mode, but then they wouldn't show you how to get to'em. They would just have like this weird cryptic hint just like in the first game, but less interesting. Were unnecessarily complicated.

Jonni Boy: 1:40:16

Yeah. The Ridler trophies were a pain.

ZaneMan: 1:40:18

They always weren't all those in the first one too. I don't recall them being in the third one. I think those were like the Ridler keys in, like the Ridler races in that one.

P Lantern: 1:40:26

Well, the third game, a knight as always, always bad. Been bad.

ZaneMan: 1:40:33

We'll get to it. well we have to wrap this up soon, so I wanna ask a couple, like two more questions. One, old p lantern, what would you rate this above or below on all three of those games?

P Lantern: 1:40:45

Okay, so Arkham City, if I had to rate it out of all three, I have to go with number one, and then asylum is number two. And then obviously nights would be number three. But if I had to rate out of 10 comparatively to other games, I would have to say story like seven. it wasn't very, you know, special. He was just, you know, Batman being Batman, fighting his villains. the only reason I gave it an extra two or seven, instead of it being average was the whole aspect of him starting off as Bruce Swain in the prison and. You know, disease, the idea that he would slowly get weaker and had to fight Joker. Yeah. the gameplay itself was like a solid nine. Sometimes you'd get caught on things. The hit boxees were weird, but all in all, the combat really made up for it. So that's why I give it a nine. Combat was really good. collectibles, I mean, wasn't much to'em. It wasn't, weren't that special like a four outta 10. It wasn't that good. Yeah. And then I guess for map, the idea and the general, like, city were good and they looked good. Moving around was bad, so I'd have to give it like a six.

ZaneMan: 1:42:03

I think those were ratings were very clear because you gave like every, every aspect of rating. One of my last questions is to you Jonni Boy. What you being an older player of this game, probably playing it near when it came out. What do you think about it?

Jonni Boy: 1:42:18

I think I prefer the first one more just because

ZaneMan: 1:42:21

I think same.

Jonni Boy: 1:42:22

I wish there was, you know, more elements of, at the back cave. I just liked that it was just a short area. I think I would've liked City a lot better if I didn't have to run all over the place to get stuff. Cuz I was just felt like I was running all over the place. Yeah. At times. And that's all I was doing. Swinging all over the place, or crawling or whatever, or climbing. And that part I didn't really like, I mean, I liked exploring, but it was like going back and forth and this and that and trying to find everything. That part I didn't really like. So with the first one being more contained, I liked that. that piece of it I liked, but it was a, it was a good game. It was a good follow up game. you know, maybe if they kept it to one particular area, you know, and then expanded upon that, I think it might have been better. Like nowadays, they would just release a portion of it and then release more of it. And that might have been something that they could have done. I mean, they, they couldn't do it back then, but if they did it like that, it would be more appeasing, I think. Yeah. So my rating on City would probably go higher.

ZaneMan: 1:43:26

Okay. I think those are very accurate descriptions of the game. I mean, I agree with you Jonni about how Aham asylum is rated top. I think it'd be like 1, 2, 3 is my rating of the games. You know, one our asylum and then city and. Night. I think those are, a good order of them.

Jonni Boy: 1:43:47

Sounds about right.

ZaneMan: 1:43:49

I think that's all we have to say with how we need to wrap up.

P Lantern: 1:43:51

I will say that the new game that came out that we'll discuss at another time, they did the open World City. Well,

ZaneMan: 1:44:00

yeah. And we'll get into that on the next podcast.

Jonni Boy: 1:44:03

we appreciate, Patrick being here with us P Lantern. Yeah. It was. So guess that's what we're Christian and him, now. so we appreciate you, you being here with us. We hope to have you back again. we might even have you back at least for the gaming segment. Right. So we'd like you to join us next time on Hero Chat Show, where ZaneMan and Jonni Boy will discuss lack Adam as the movies she hawk attorney at law 5, 6, 7, 8, and nine. We will finish that up for watching tv. And we're gaming together. A video game that we're playing will be Gotham Knights. Check out Hero Chat Show on Instagram, Hero Chat Show, and wherever you listen to your podcast. Don't forget to check out other episodes of Hero Chat Show and tell a friend who likes DC. Marvel or Star Wars and you can also check out my other podcasts about music under the Influence with DJ DJJonniBravo. We'll see you next time. Goodbye.

ZaneMan: 1:45:05

See ya.

P Lantern: 1:45:06

Oh, Shazam.

Jonni Boy: 1:45:07

Shazam!

ZaneMan: 1:45:08

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